Tea party vs GOP Establishment in NC, elsewhere

Associated Press ^ | May 6, 2014 3:41 PM EDT | David Espo

[Olog-hai]

North Carolina Republicans sorted through their choices to challenge Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan on Tuesday, and Speaker John Boehner sought re-nomination to Congress from Ohio, first in a springtime spate of primaries pitting the GOP establishment against tea party challengers.

Indiana also picked candidates for the November elections, when control of Congress will be at stake for the final two years of the President Barack Obama’s tenure in the White House.

Several Republican House incumbents drew strong primary challenges, including Reps. Walter Jones of North Carolina, David Joyce of Ohio and Susan Brooks of Indiana. …

[mabarker1]

North Carolina Republicans sorted through their choices to challenge Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan on Tuesday

Now let's decode this:

ap knows already who NC has voted for ?

Does ap have the power to close the Voting down early to get their BS into print faster ?

I have not gone to Vote yet nor has My GF, We are going after She gets out of work.

[TBP]

Get your friends out to vote for Brannon — but more importantly, against Tillis. He MUST be kept under 40 percent. then unite in the runoff.

[entropy12]

Winnable seats lost by nominating candidates who were more conservative than their primary opponents

Ken Cuccinelli, governor
Todd Akin, Senate
Richard Mourdock, Senate
Sharron Angle, Senate
Christine O’Donnell, Senate
George Allen, Senate
Joe Miller, Senate
Ken Buck, Senate
Doug Hoffman, House

[Kenny]

I think after the thousands of fraudulent voter registrations recently uncovered, we can be pretty damn sure that Cuccinelli at a minimum was cheated out of victory. It’s no longer that it has to be ‘close’ to suspect fraud because the number of bogus registrations is staggering.

[entropy12]

I can’t disagree on democRat voting fraud. I lived in Chicago area for 30+ years.

[entropy12]

The last time Repubs had absolute control of congress and WH, not much was done to curb voter fraud. But still hoping next repub president will do something effective.

[SoConPubbie]

Winnable seats lost by nominating candidates who were more conservative than their primary opponents

Joe Miller lost because that witch Lisa Murkowski, after losing the GOP Primary, play the sore loser and ran a write-in campaign.

You've built a strawman entropy12 and have not been honest about the real reasons many in your list lost.

[House Atreides]

A representative of the League for the Defense of GOPe Candidates has made another appearance.

[entropy12]

But you aqre ignoring the fact that republican Lisa Murkowski would have won easily if nominated as a republican candidate.

My whole point is I rather win with a 80% conservative than lose with a 100% conservative. Losing gives control and power to Harry Reid as majority leader.

[SharpRightTurn]

“Winnable seats lost by nominating candidates who were more conservative than their primary opponents

Ken Cuccinelli, governor
Todd Akin, Senate
Richard Mourdock, Senate
Sharron Angle, Senate
Christine O’Donnell, Senate
George Allen, Senate
Joe Miller, Senate
Ken Buck, Senate
Doug Hoffman, House”

Winnable seats lost by candidates who were squishes:

George Allen
Pete Hoekstra
Heather Wilson
Rick Berg
Tommy Thompson
Denny Rehberg
Connie Mack

[Count of Monte Fisto]

I think after the thousands of fraudulent voter registrations recently uncovered, we can be pretty damn sure that Cuccinelli at a minimum was cheated out of victory.

It didn't help that the GOP - at minimum - hung Cuccinelli out to dry by not providing funds, manpower, or even moral support. My feeling is that they actively worked to ensure his defeat.

[SoCalConservative]

Thanks for your opinion. I just voted here in NC. I voted for Greg Brannon, the Tea Party candidate for Senate. Mickey Mouse could win this primary and topple Kay Hagan. She’s toast.

I voted for Taylor Griffin, the Tea Party candidate for House, hopefully to topple Walter Jones, who gets more liberal every year and was dead wood long ago. I doubt Jones will lose, he’s backed by the “GOPe”. You see, the problem with your theory is the fact that people like Jones won’t get challenged if you just send in another moderate that’s just like him. It takes CONTRAST and I would just rather vote my conscience anyway. Have you ever wondered that perhaps it’s folks like you that are handing democrats the win, time and time again, because of your wishy-washy votes? Sure, some tea party candidates have lost, you can cherry pick all you want. There are a host of reasons for that, some were just lousy candidates to begin with.

[SoCalConservative]

Aside from the fact that they had thousands of libtards voting for the 3rd party candidate. All’s fair in love and war, but be sure that Cuccinelli didn’t lose because he was a strong conservative.

[SoConPubbie]

My whole point is I rather win with a 80% conservative than lose with a 100% conservative. Losing gives control and power to Harry Reid as majority leader.

Your not dealing with a 80% conservative if they are pro-abortion/pro-gay marriage/not a limited government conservative/Pro-Amnesty.

At best, they are 50% and they are constantly evolving to whatever policy positions they think will bring in more corporate campaign cash.

Once again, you are overstating or understating your position, depending on your point of view.

My point being is that your 80% conservative in true terms, isn't even close to being an 80% conservative.

[SoConPubbie]

Winnable seats lost by candidates who were squishes:

You forgot the following:

G.H. Bush Bob Dole John McCain Mitt Romney

[entropy12]

GH Bush, Bob Dole were not best candidates.
Too mild mannered in the country club mold.

I like candidates like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Newt who ALWAYS can answer all gotcha questions instantly. They have in depth knowledge of issues. Some candidates look like a deer in head lights when confronted with gotcha questions.

McCain? Give me a break! In this era of 24-7 cable news we nominate a old, pudgy, balding guy with very well known maverick tendencies versus a charismatic, young, tall, lean candidate who can give bombastic speeches?

Romney? Not as bad as McCain, but Newt would have been heckuva better in debates with Obama. Also, only reason Romney won nomination because he had no moderate opponents to split the vote. Newt & little Ricky fought to the end splitting votes every where. If either drops out, Mittster can not win.