SBU: Yanukovych allies Arbuzov and Klymenko financed riots in Odessa

Kyiv Post ^ | 05/03/2014 | Oksana Grytsenko

[Agog]

Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) accused former Prime Minister Sergiy Arbuzov and former Deputy Prime Minister Oleksandr Klymenko of financing the thugs who provoked riots in Odessa of May 2, which led to at least 46 deaths. Arbuzov and Klymenko served in the administration of disgraced former President Viktor Yanukovych, who was overthrown in the EuroMaidan Revolution on Feb. 22. ........ “Subversion in the Ukrainian city of Odessa that was financed by former top officials was targeted at disruption of stability on the south of Ukraine,” said Kateryna Kosareva, SBU press spokeswoman. “Its organizers were planning that it would be the beginning of full scale instability on the rest of southern regions of our country.”

Kosareva said the people who instigated the clashes came from the breakaway Moldovan region of Trasnistriaand were coordinated by Russian subversives.

[canuck_conservative]

Not surprising.

Russia’s strategy all along has been to subvert Ukraine from within via the toadies they helped to install in that government. That’s why they - and their apologists here on FR - got so upset about the Feb. 22 Revolution, because it messed up all their carefully-worked plans.

Now they have to go back to old-fashioned thuggery if they want to take over Ukraine. Damn.

[goldstategop]

The SBU is trying to justify killing Russians by changing the subject - that if that makes everything alright in Odessa.

If radicals killed Ukrainians in a Russian city, no one in the West would rightly stand for it.

Human rights these days are subordinated to geopolitical interests.

[goldstategop]

The SBU with all its resources has not been able to find these saboteurs and evidence of destabilization. Surely it can parade suspects from Russia in a news conference.

All of which ignores the fact people have been killed at the orders of the Ukrainian state - not Russia.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Agog.

[ScaniaBoy]

Arbuzov & Klymenko = Emmanuel Goldstein & Trotsky?

[canuck_conservative]

You’re like the guy who commits a crime, then whines when the cops come down on him.

So let’s clarify - Russia invaded, covertly, a country that isn’t theirs, and now that that country is legitimately fighting back, Russia whines about being the victim.

Russia is no victim.

[Agog]

Your statement is incorrect. The financing of armed anti-Ukrainians and Russian tourists has been going on for many weeks and has been documented. There have been intercepts of couriers from Moscow traveling from Moscow with cash and bank cards for example.

Moreover, yesterday was an instance of the Kremlin financing and arming Russian citizens and their supporters and directing them to cause mayhem and to kill people during a pro-Ukrainian demonstration. Thus, this was Russians killing Ukrainians in a Ukrainian city. It will only be a Russian city if and when Putin’s war is successful.

It is being reported in Ukrainian newspapers that the Putin had been planning a massacre of Ukrainians in Odessa on the May 9 holiday, but his timetable had to be accelerated after the attack on Sloviansk. Thus, the killing and mayhem were not as great, although many Ukrainians were shot and killed as well as injured yesterday. As for those who died in the fire, about half of those were not Ukrainian citizens and had been brought in from outside the territory of Ukraine. You should ask why there were foreigners taking an active part in an attempt to overthrow the Ukrainian government. They sound like unlawful combatants to me. Also, why did the police stand by and why was it the Ukrainian citizenry had to defend itself from these unlawful combatants?

[Agog]

Reports are also that most of those arrested after yesterday’s events are Russian citizens (ie, individuals from outside the territory of Ukraine). See http://www.unian.ua/politics/914211-mvs-bilshist-zatrimanih-v-odesi-gromadyani-rosiji-ta-jiteli-pridnistrovya.html

Thus, the question is why Russian citizens participating in an armed and violent action against Ukrainians in a Ukrainian city?

[AdmSmith]

As news emerged of the hostages’ release, Ukraine’s SBU security service released audio tapes of intercepted phone calls it claimed proved that Vladimir Lukin, the Kremlin’s envoy, enjoyed a cosy working relationship with Igor Girkin, a senior security official for the separatists in Slavyansk.
Ukraine has issued an arrest warrant for Mr Girkin – sometimes identified as Igor Strelkov or by the nom de guerre “Strelok” – a man the Kiev government says is a Russian citizen and GRU military intelligence agent who was active in fomenting unrest in Crimea before Moscow annexed it in March.
In one of them, Mr Lukin is heard asking Mr Girkin: “How warm is the atmosphere, and when can we meet?”
In another, the rebel leader is heard telling the Kremlin envoy: “I was given the order to give assistance to you, and not to the European partners.”
Later, Mr Lukin is heard asking when he should come to Slavyansk. Mr Girkin replies: “Tomorrow morning is more convenient for me for one simple reason: as soon as you leave, the storming will start again.”
When the hostages were still being held, Russia, which is a member of the 37-member OSCE, had blamed the hostages captivity on Ukrainian authorities.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c0c47de-d2a8-11e3-bcd6-00144feabdc0.html

the intercepted phone call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKOZ2wrFL0&feature=youtu.be

[FreeReign]

The SBU is trying to justify killing Russians by changing the subject - that if that makes everything alright in Odessa.

So now one can't even report on the pro Russian riots in Odessa. Unbelievable.

[lodi90]

So now one can’t even report on the pro Russian riots in Odessa. Unbelievable.

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The Putin parrots will defend their Armchair isolationism to the end. Even if it means supporting those who started the violence yesterday that ending up killing 50 people.

[Resettozero]

Now they have to go back to old-fashioned thuggery if they want to take over Ukraine. Damn.

Right now, it's working.

But since there are so many Christians in Ukraine (and others joining with them), I wouldn't give up hope. Prayer, ya know.

[WildSnail]

Um, isn’t parading suspects in a news conference illegal? Seems to me there are probably local, national, and international laws against such behavior.

They are releasing as much information as they can, but it’s all poo-pood by RT (voice of the Kremlin) and all the pro-Putin types. Whatever RT says is gospel truth, and whatever Ukrainian officials or media reports is apparently nothing but propaganda.

[Understand the stimulus]

Obama has imposed CRIPS GANG theory in dealing with Russia when he put out contracts to deny freedoms for the wealthiest men in Russia...

Putin is now identifying Obama’s BIG CRIPS Gang members to some of the toughest BLOOD oligarchs in Russia...these men didn’t get to their positions by being patsies

In NY in the 70s when there were family battles over TURF it wasn’t healthy to be on any list