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1 posted on 05/03/2014 5:43:43 AM PDT by Agog
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Not surprising.

Russia’s strategy all along has been to subvert Ukraine from within via the toadies they helped to install in that government. That’s why they - and their apologists here on FR - got so upset about the Feb. 22 Revolution, because it messed up all their carefully-worked plans.

Now they have to go back to old-fashioned thuggery if they want to take over Ukraine. Damn.


2 posted on 05/03/2014 5:52:47 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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The SBU is trying to justify killing Russians by changing the subject - that if that makes everything alright in Odessa.

If radicals killed Ukrainians in a Russian city, no one in the West would rightly stand for it.

Human rights these days are subordinated to geopolitical interests.


3 posted on 05/03/2014 5:55:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Agog; canuck_conservative; SunkenCiv

As news emerged of the hostages’ release, Ukraine’s SBU security service released audio tapes of intercepted phone calls it claimed proved that Vladimir Lukin, the Kremlin’s envoy, enjoyed a cosy working relationship with Igor Girkin, a senior security official for the separatists in Slavyansk.
Ukraine has issued an arrest warrant for Mr Girkin – sometimes identified as Igor Strelkov or by the nom de guerre “Strelok” – a man the Kiev government says is a Russian citizen and GRU military intelligence agent who was active in fomenting unrest in Crimea before Moscow annexed it in March.
In one of them, Mr Lukin is heard asking Mr Girkin: “How warm is the atmosphere, and when can we meet?”
In another, the rebel leader is heard telling the Kremlin envoy: “I was given the order to give assistance to you, and not to the European partners.”
Later, Mr Lukin is heard asking when he should come to Slavyansk. Mr Girkin replies: “Tomorrow morning is more convenient for me for one simple reason: as soon as you leave, the storming will start again.”
When the hostages were still being held, Russia, which is a member of the 37-member OSCE, had blamed the hostages captivity on Ukrainian authorities.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c0c47de-d2a8-11e3-bcd6-00144feabdc0.html

the intercepted phone call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKOZ2wrFL0&feature=youtu.be


10 posted on 05/03/2014 6:26:00 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Agog

Obama has imposed CRIPS GANG theory in dealing with Russia when he put out contracts to deny freedoms for the wealthiest men in Russia...

Putin is now identifying Obama’s BIG CRIPS Gang members to some of the toughest BLOOD oligarchs in Russia...these men didn’t get to their positions by being patsies

In NY in the 70s when there were family battles over TURF it wasn’t healthy to be on any list


15 posted on 05/03/2014 2:26:57 PM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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