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Russian separatists down 2 choppers, fighting spreads to Odessa as Ukraine teeters
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2014 | Fox News

Posted on 05/02/2014 4:48:33 PM PDT by BurningOak

Pro-Russian separatists shot down two helicopters in a key eastern Ukrainian city, and fighting in the port city of Odessa triggered a fire that killed dozens, as the embattled nation moved closer to the brink of civil war.

Interim Ukraine President Oleksandr Turchynov said "many" pro-Russia rebels have been killed, injured and arrested in a major offensive to regain control of Slavyansk, though it was not clear if the Kiev-backed forces had succeeded. Russia reacted angrily to the offensive by Ukrainian security forces, calling for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council after a spokesman for President Vladimir Putin warned it "effectively destroyed the last hope for the implementation of the Geneva agreements."

In the Black Sea port city of Odessa, Ukraine's third-largest city, a fire that broke out in a trade union building amid clashes killed 31. Fighting there represented another ominous milestone in the conflict that threatens to become a full-blown civil war, as Odessa holds huge historic significance for Russians and Ukrainians alike.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; obamafail; russia; ukraine
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To: no-to-illegals

Too many...none of them should have been there...reminds me of those they used in Egypt ...


241 posted on 05/02/2014 9:02:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Read or watch (I forget...been a while) the interview he gave telling how he aided the Nazis. Stunningly evil man.


242 posted on 05/02/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: caww

Any idea whom made the call to the children?


243 posted on 05/02/2014 9:04:39 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’re right!...I forget sometimes that it’s Ukraine and their culture leanings.


244 posted on 05/02/2014 9:05:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: ncalburt

“Joking while innocent people are being dragged behind the new Iron Curtain.”

Look jackass, We lost the cold war when we elected an affirmative action candidate as our commander and chief.

Putin is indeed the leader of the free world by default... It isn’t now or is it ever going to be our faggot, Muslim, girly-man of a president.

We don’t have a military, simply because it has no leader...


245 posted on 05/02/2014 9:05:51 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Rashputin
The Ukrainian Army is killing civilians. The civilians are Ukrainian. The Maidan crowd claim to be the government of the Ukraine. The present government of the Ukraine has command the Ukrainian Army to kill Ukrainians. If it's tough dealing with these alleged Specnaz then the SOBs that overthrew the government prefer murdering of civilians to tough decisions. Straight forward, PERIOD.

Civilians equipped with automatic weapons and MANPADS who have taken over government buildings and removed government officials at gunpoint have ceased to be civilians - they are now rebels.

246 posted on 05/02/2014 9:06:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: babygene

Don’t count on we have no leader ... forget the cic ... is my opinion.


247 posted on 05/02/2014 9:07:34 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: caww

Hearing anything from there on the ground? May you share? Big Listening.


248 posted on 05/02/2014 9:12:09 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sure... Sign me up. A large would work for me.


249 posted on 05/02/2014 9:12:47 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: no-to-illegals

And of course they never debate rationally, and ignore the fact that our real enemy is right here in Mordor on the Potomac. And why do they trust that the cabal in M on the P will do the right thing in foreign policy, for the first time since the head freak got “elected”?

And why do they think Putin is so hellbent on destroying the US that he is more dangerous than our own chief of state who has proved he is hell bent on destroying the US and has done pretty good that destruction already?

The only question I have is who they are serving.


250 posted on 05/02/2014 9:13:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I am familiar...he pops up in the most unexpected places too! He moves his money around to so many organizations it’s not funny. Tried to track them when I’d heard about how he slings his wealth around. They’re all interconnected, and layers upon layers.

I tracked down the fellow...Barbossa/Bruski or whatever his name is, who set Putin up to run for Pres.... Then Putin booted his butt out of Gov and Russia, though he claimed he “left”...In another country he opened his yap far to often...dead now..... He financed the Orange revolution to get back at Putin for boosting him out of the adminstration and ties with his wealth in Russia. Though the guy was really seeking the power. He wanted to be Pres. but it backfired on him with Putin.


251 posted on 05/02/2014 9:15:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: sunrise_sunset

As of today Ukraine is finished. All that remains is the ending.

You can argue about snipers but a whole lot of unarmed people were burned alive and physically blocked from leaving a burning building. As they jumped to their deaths the crowd was laughing.

These are the kind of savages the US is aligned with.


The Svoboda/Pravi Sektor fans also beat some of the ones who jumped from the burning building when they hit the ground. I’ve seen some photos, there are a lot of them and video. Coudn’t stomach watching the suffering on video.


252 posted on 05/02/2014 9:16:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

(imho) best question of the decade. Whom is running this bunch of lies at us? Is time we find out.


253 posted on 05/02/2014 9:16:43 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: babygene

Well it -has- to be large just to fit his massive biceps in the pic! (Aren’t they just DREAMY?!?!!) ;)


254 posted on 05/02/2014 9:17:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Rashputin

If you find out where the KGB troll paymaster is, let me know. I really need some fillings taken care of.


255 posted on 05/02/2014 9:20:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Zhang Fei

“For ordering the shooting of 100 civilian demonstrators and for abolishing freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.”

Is that all??? That’s nothing... Google deaths at Waco.


256 posted on 05/02/2014 9:24:16 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: caww

“like the other ones funding groups in Ukraine now.”

Research the “Omidyar Network”.


257 posted on 05/02/2014 9:24:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: caww

That’s what is the really worrying thing. Putin is a VERY smart guy. And far from a nice one. He understands the way the world works and is not afraid to wield power.

what abject moron in their right mind wants to take on Vlad Putin with Bhenghazi Barry at the helm? Not just in war. In anything? How insane does one have to be to saber rattle when this is what we have to work with/lead us?

I said it in a go around yesterday. Sure we have a military...that will never be allowed to fight, hobbled by rules of engagement guaranteeing they die. We have a state/foreign policy that has made enemies of all allies and really tweaked the rest.

As long ad Barry rules, we are adrift. Every move we made under his misleadership hurts us/helps them, whoever them is at the time.

So how do we do anything but come out screwed until he is gone? How? Who wants us there in any capacity?

There is an obvious answer.


258 posted on 05/02/2014 9:26:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 1rudeboy

Exhibit A for post 55.


259 posted on 05/02/2014 9:26:53 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Zhang Fei

“and removed government officials at gunpoint have ceased to be civilians - they are now rebels”

Correct - They are REBELS, not TERRORISTS.

For the Ukraine government to call them “rebels” means to admit they are shooting their own citizens in a Civil War.


260 posted on 05/02/2014 9:27:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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