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US states may go back to electric chair and firing squads
telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 05/01/2014 11:56:15 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

US states may go back to electric chair and firing squads

Shortage of drugs for lethal injections leads states to consider alternative methods of executing prisoners

By Raf Sanchez, Washington

6:42PM BST 01 May 2014

US states may revert to killing their death row inmates with electric chairs, firing squads and gas chambers as it becomes increasingly difficult to source chemicals for lethal injections.

The EU has banned the export of one of the most common sedatives used in lethal injections, forcing US states to experiment with new "cocktails" of drugs for executions.

One such experimental recipe was used in the botched execution of an Oklahoma prisoner on Tuesday, leaving him to writhe in pain and die of a massive heart attack 43 minutes after being injected.

The shortage of execution drugs, coupled with fears the courts may intervene to ban experimental methods of lethal injection, have prompted states to look at alternative ways to kill prisoners.

Tennessee's legislature has passed a bill that would reintroduce the electric chair if the state was unable to find drugs for lethal injections.

The state's Republican governor is still weighing whether to sign it into law.

Missouri is considering a proposal to reintroduce both firing squads and gas chambers if it becomes impossible to carry out a lethal injection.

Richard Dieter, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Centre, said the laws were intended as symbols by conservative politicians of their commitment to the death penalty.

"It's about being even more blatant than the anti-death penalty side. To see this as a rational process is to miss the harshly divisive political atmosphere that produces these things," he said.

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To: SpinnerWebb

Considering what ammo costs these days, hanging would be cheaper.

A good rope can be used over and over again.


121 posted on 05/01/2014 1:44:01 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: PapaNew

Kind of strange how so many folks here are impeccable Constitutional scholars, but have no tolerance whatsoever for the Bill of Rights somewhere between the Fourth and Ninth Amendments.


122 posted on 05/01/2014 1:44:07 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: PapaNew

Self-protection is our individual responsibility. But private vengeance, or vigilantism, can be problematic. That’s where the state comes in.


123 posted on 05/01/2014 1:44:54 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Unknowing

By the way, hanging was not considered cruel or unusual by the Founders.


124 posted on 05/01/2014 1:46:30 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: thackney
Are there extremes cases, such as insanely cruel torture and death of multiple children "earn" capital punishment?

Of course our moral conscience is outraged by such heinousness acts and we naturally want "justice" by which we usually mean vengeance of some kind of nasty punishment. I'm the same way.

But at least on a moral level, I have to stop and remember that every single heinous thing that was ever and will ever be done was completely condemned, judged and paid for on the cross 2000 years ago. All moral issues were resolved there.

What's left is the civil law and IMO, that should go more to protection than punishment.

125 posted on 05/01/2014 1:50:57 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: TexasGunLover
To the contrary, there is evidence if it was used more, it would deter even more violent crime. Its expansion for lesser crimes is sorely needed.

It's interesting that even a state reputed to have draconian penalties like Texas has an execution to criminal homicide rate of 1% (i.e. 1 execution per 100 homicides).

126 posted on 05/01/2014 1:53:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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127 posted on 05/01/2014 1:54:33 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hang them in public and get it over with!


128 posted on 05/01/2014 1:54:39 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just use battery acid


129 posted on 05/01/2014 1:56:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PapaNew
I think JESUS also said to render unto Caesar that which is Caesars. In a death penalty case, Caesar consists of the people who must and should be protected from rabid, predatory animals or humans. The only way to assure that protection is to remove that predator from society permanently.
130 posted on 05/01/2014 1:57:08 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s fine with me as long as we start with the POTUS, his staff, and Congress,


131 posted on 05/01/2014 2:01:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sub-Driver

Why a firing squad?

Russians did it, as did the Germans, with one guy and a handgun, and one bullet.

So did a South Vietnamese general, with that picture easy to find.


132 posted on 05/01/2014 2:02:40 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: PapaNew

Maybe God will have mercy on them, but I sure as hell wouldn’t.


133 posted on 05/01/2014 2:06:49 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: Sub-Driver
Texas necktie parties work to.
134 posted on 05/01/2014 2:09:12 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Truthfully, firing squads are the way to go.

Inexpensive, very difficult to legally challenge, and requiring no hard to obtain or hazardous chemicals.

Right now, only Utah recognizes firing squads as a primary means to execute; and Oklahoma will allow it only if lethal injection and the gas chamber are outlawed.


135 posted on 05/01/2014 2:09:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: drypowder

> Many moons ago and in a far away land a death penalty was administered to criminals in the same manner they administered death to their victims.

...where crime was almost non-existent and PC was unheard of. A place where men were men and women were women and your honor and your word meant something. A place where people were held accountable for their own actions and blamed no one else for their failures and learned from them. A place where your own hard work rewarded your efforts and gibmedats were unheard of...a place where gibmedats were shunned and frowned and could be called lazy because thats what they were..

I could go on forever...: )


136 posted on 05/01/2014 2:13:14 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: no-s

True

I would have shot him in time in many minor locations to make him suffer.


137 posted on 05/01/2014 2:14:28 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hanging is cheaper.


138 posted on 05/01/2014 2:20:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: PapaNew

Please tell me how a murderer would pay me back for a murdered wife, child, mother, father, brother, sister or any other human being that I cared for; or for that matter some person I did not even know.
GOD gave each and every person their life to cherish, live and protect to the best of their ability; and a murderer comes along and arbitrarily steals that GOD given gift from them, for no good reason other than they can?
The person who murders steals more than just a life; they take all that a child, woman or man could have ever done or been, all their love, happiness and productivity forever.
You are starting to sound like one of those Born Again Christians sitting in a death row cell in a prison some where trying to avoid your debt to society.


139 posted on 05/01/2014 2:21:41 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: PapaNew
You lock up dangerous criminals to protect society.

But with convicted murders, after an appropriate appeals process (short but thorough) you execute them.

A radio show host here in Houston called it "permanent rehabilitation". And it is. They commit no more crimes, ever.

140 posted on 05/01/2014 2:27:52 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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