Miami-Dade Cops Arrest Man for Video Recording them Making Arrest

Photography is not a Crime ^ | 4/10/14 | Carlos Miller

[SoFloFreeper]

A Miami man spent ten days in jail for recording police arresting his friend, accused of falsifying his name when all he did was refuse to provide his name on the basis that he wasn’t doing anything illegal.

In fact, Lazaro Estrada followed the Miami-Dade police officer’s initial orders to scurry back inside a store because the cop insisted he was in fear for his life, claiming the man he had handcuffed was still armed.

[SoFloFreeper]

I believe in law and order, but this, IF THE REPORT IS TRUE, is going too far.

I guarantee you if any Miami tv station showed up to record the arrest, the cops would allow it.

This is a precursor to LICENSING journalists....giving government the power to decide WHO gets to gather and disseminate information.

[SoFloFreeper]

Ten days in jail. For essentially taking video of a public event.

[wideawake]

Florida law allows police to demand identification if they believe you are loitering.

It's a very broad standard, and by refusing to identify himself he gave these cops a legal excuse to detain him.

This is clearly abusive, but he gave them cover he didn't need to give.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

From the article;

“After they arrested him, they discovered he had a warrant out of Broward County for an unpaid traffic ticket, which resulted in him remaining in jail for ten days.

Perhaps Estrada can report Valdez to internal affairs now that the unit’s lieutenant has been arrested on felony charges that he assisted drug traffickers, including plotting murders.”

[sport]

In fact, Lazaro Estrada followed the Miami-Dade police officer’s initial orders to scurry back inside a store because the cop insisted he was in fear for his life, claiming the man he had handcuffed was still armed.

Mr. Lazaro is extremely fortunate that he was not shot and killed, the same goes double for tha handcuffed man. Because when the phrase, "fear for his/her life", enters a cop's mind, the bullets start flying. Cops now fear for their lives at all times, even when in bed asleep.

[Ken522]

Florida law allows police to demand identification if they believe you are loitering.

So say you are walking on the sidewalk and a cop demands to see your identification - if you ignore him he can say he thought you were "loitering," "resisting arrest" (by ignoring him), he "feared for his life" because you walked by without genuflecting toward him, which gives this dumb cop carte blanche authority to do whatever he wants to you ... wow!

[SoFloFreeper]

He clearly was not loitering—he was actively involved in videotaping the cops.

This abuse ought to be stopped. Nipped in the bud.

[sport]

Perhaps Estrada can report Valdez to internal affairs now that the unit’s lieutenant has been arrested on felony charges that he assisted drug traffickers, including plotting murders.”

Number one, Estrada is wasting his time reporting Valdez and endangering his [Estrada's] life at the same time. Because nothing will happen to Valdez and Valdez will tell his friends ant they will begin planning a badge killing for Estrada.

[ilovesarah2012]

Over zealous security guard claims it’s illegal to take photos of courthouse

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/forums/topic/over-zealous-security-guard-claims-its-illegal-to-take-photos-of-courthouse/

I watched this video yesterday. I think it was on Drudge. Anyway, their website has a lot of cop abuse stories that they have videoed. I predict they will all be audited by the IRS very soon.

[sport]

I don’t see why not, it is illegal to do anything now.

[samtheman]

Cops are fighting a losing battle against public video. The cameras are only going to get smaller and easier to conceal.

[ilovesarah2012]

I wonder how many laws we break every day and don’t even realize it.

“America has too many laws, and the laws we do have are tedious, overly complex and sometimes not only impossible to understand, but impossible to comply with. And that brings me to the question: If jurors can‚Äôt understand a law well enough to determine if someone broke it, just how do lawmakers expect citizens to understand it enough to obey it?

So if you are you looking for an exact number you’re not going to find it anywhere. My guess? A couple of million or more. Everything we do is governed even though we’re supposed to be the “land of the free” and I wonder if we’re collectively brave enough to change this. Maybe the young man in Arizona would still be alive. Then again maybe not…”

http://www.searchamelia.com/land-of-40627-laws-and-regulations-more

[sport]

You have to show id. when they demand it. You don't have to answer questions, or back when the Government recognized the Constitution, one did not have to answer questions posed to them in a stop and frisk. However, since we are now, by popular demand, a Banana Republic, the police can do to the public whatever they please. As two Mexican ladies delivering newspapers early one morning learned the hard way.

[wideawake]

Again, loitering is a very broad standard - making a personal recording is no more vital an activity than waiting for a friend or enjoying a cigarette.

[JRandomFreeper]

In Texas, there is no requirement to show ID, according to Brown v. State of Texas where the supreme court ruled in favor of Brown.

I don't carry ID unless I am driving. Ever.

/johnny

[Hugin]

Apparently they can also give you a rectal probe, because you might have drugs up there.

[wideawake]

State laws on these matters definitely differ considerably.

[autumnraine]

That is common in Florida. Show your papers andd that’s an order

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

There was a U.S. Supreme Court case in recent years out of Nevada.....I think it was the Hilber decision.....where the Supreme Court ruled that a citizen does NOT have to show their I.D. to police if they, the police, demand it, absent a crime being committed.

But the court did say that the citizen is required to tell the police his or her name if asked. Anyone familiar with this case?

[Crazieman]

Seems cops want to be shot at. That will be the result of attempting to confiscate anything of mine illegally. ENOUGH OF THIS BS