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Unknown gunmen land from helicopter, attack checkpoint in Donetsk region ("US-made guns"?)
RT ^ | 4-26-2014 | RT

Posted on 04/26/2014 9:22:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Self-defence forces have managed to repel an attack on a checkpoint in Soledar city in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region after unknown assailants landed in a helicopter and attacked in a blitz operation.

Over a dozen of gunmen descended from the helicopter and launched an attack on a defense squad guarding a checkpoint near Soledar. As the unknown men attacked, the militia, most of them reportedly unarmed, was forced to retreat.

Following the shootout, the attackers have retreated as well, taking one of the defenders hostage, the local self-defense force told RT’s correspondent Paula Slier who is at the scene.

There are conflicting reports of deaths and injuries, with some talking about at least one killed among the attackers, while other reports suggest one of the defenders was killed.

After the military raid ended, some of the self-defence militia moved forward to retake the checkpoint. Those who were guarding the checkpoint, told Slier that the marked attackers in black uniforms were armed with ‘US-made guns’.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; civilwar; coup; ibtz; putinsbuttboys; russia; russiatoday; ukraine
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To: tcrlaf

Check for cattle mutilations. If present, the helicopters are black. Russians should just pack up and go home before it’s too late. :-)


21 posted on 04/26/2014 10:12:45 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: tcrlaf

“Anything that anyone, anywhere says that is counter to what MaidanPR puts out is “Filthy Paid Russian Propoganda”.”

Everything that RT puts out is absolute propaganda and is recognized as such. Why do you propagandize for Russian foreign policy that is illegally annexing sovereign land and sending in special forces and agents inside a sovereign nation?


22 posted on 04/26/2014 10:13:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: tcrlaf
We get it, already.

If you're taking the invader's (Russia's) side, then no, you don't get it.

If you're still spouting the "Right Sector" red herring, then no, you don't get it.

If you still think Russia Today is objective, then no, you just don't get it.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 10:14:23 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

I’m NOT taking Russia’s side, I’m posting the latest news.

I’m trying to understand, to the best of my limited abilities, what is REALLY going on, from the propaganda being thrown around by ALL sides.

That I don’t trust what is coming out of Washington says volumes in itself.


24 posted on 04/26/2014 10:20:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: canuck_conservative

Please link to when I ever said RT was “objective”. Mow you are just making things up.


25 posted on 04/26/2014 10:21:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All; Admin Moderator

Of the 25 25 comments on this thread, only THREE, not by me, relate to the contents of the article.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 10:24:35 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Duh, you posted an article with RT as your source, then you take a quote from that source and assume it’s true (post #1).

That implies you trust RT as a news source.

In #17 and #19 you’re positively defending Russia’s behavior.

So don’t claim innocence now, that you “just want to find out what’s going on”. If you want to apologize for Russia, just admit it.


27 posted on 04/26/2014 10:27:27 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: tcrlaf

“Not really, but someone around him maybe”

Thats true and I was word fiddling trying to squeeze in “Like perhaps he left somebody in the Military that smart”. But I didn’t want to stretch the imagination that far or mainly because I didn’t want to disparage the military.

The thought that a private company could do this freaks me out a bit. Wow, corporate army. Not your ‘Soldier of Fortune’ subscriber types either. But you know, after so many years of war we’re bound to have produced some pretty cold and efficient paramilitary types. Caesars private army. I wonder who funds it. Gotta cost a fortune. What’s funny is they’re probably insured too. Those are the real players. I wonder what will be today’s symbol for the Rubicon. Rise the Illuminati! Rise the Barbarians!

Sorry, was practicing some creative writing.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 10:28:45 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: tcrlaf

“Of the 25 25 comments on this thread, only THREE, not by me, relate to the contents of the article.”

Incorrect statement.

Comments as to the credibility of the source are valid comments regarding the article.

Russia Today is a known propaganda arm of the Russian government.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 10:29:06 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: canuck_conservative

You just skipped this part, then?

“If true, this opens up all kinds of problems. If it isn’t true, what is Russia going for?” in Post#1?


30 posted on 04/26/2014 10:32:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Using American weapons doesn’t mean anything.


31 posted on 04/26/2014 10:34:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: tcrlaf

I didn’t skip #17 and #19


32 posted on 04/26/2014 10:35:22 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: tcrlaf

US Weapons?

Probably the B.L.M. or ATF.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 10:37:29 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: tcrlaf
Take what the media says with a grain of salt, and look at what the Ukrainian people are actually saying. I'd suggest delving in with Google Translate and Chrome, and you'll find that on social media and even on the major Russian-language forums in Ukraine, the people seem to be rather supportive of the Maidan government in resisting Putin's aggression.

The Maidan government is not very popular overall though, but mainly because of the co-opting of the Ukrainian oligarchs and perceived weakness against Putin (and Yulia being the inevitable candidate...again). In other words, it's actually disliked more due to the return of the unpopular Yushchenko elites, not because of the 'neo-Nazi Banderist Svoboda takeover'. Most seem to have sided with the Maidan government for now though, due to the ‘rally around the flag’ effect.

Svoboda seems to be viewed as a small, loud and troublesome faction massively played up by the Russians.

And yes, there is a significant minority (maybe 10-30%) of Russian-speakers in Eastern Ukraine that actually do want Russia to annex the East, but it's clearly a minority and even they are rather ambivalent with the Russian infiltrators and their paid crowds.

The only ones who are not viewing Putin as the aggressor over there are the Russian trolls who admit to coming from there to 'give their side of the story'.

34 posted on 04/26/2014 10:40:10 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Iron Munro

LOL! Yeah, I was thinking when I read that, “Whoa - there aren’t a lot of places you can get U.S. made weapons. Other than Wal-Mart.”


35 posted on 04/26/2014 10:43:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I agree. Don’t post from AMERICAN MEDIA propaganda sources. Their goal is to manipulate public opinion for the uninformed and spread lies.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 10:50:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Corporate Democrat

“The only ones who are not viewing Putin as the aggressor over there are the Russian trolls”

IMHO, as I have said many times, Obama and the minions, in an attempt to make Russia “pay” for stopping the Syria attack, have unintentionally created conditions that Putin, Machiavellian that he is, couldn’t possibly pass up.

Events in Ukraine didn’t happen in a vacuum, and Russian Intelligence isn’t stupid. They saw what was coming and made contingencies for it.


37 posted on 04/26/2014 11:10:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

You’re right , it didn’t happen in a vacuum. Yanukovych made a key election promise to associate Ukraine with the EU. As a Russian, he decided to play the moderate to get elected.

Once he did get elected, he waffled for a few years and then broke that promise in return for 15 billion from Putin. When he reneged, massive outrage ensued quickly leading to protests.

Did Obama force Yanukovych to ditch the EU Association deal?


38 posted on 04/26/2014 11:18:36 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: tcrlaf
Like I said, go look at what they're saying for yourself. He lied, reneged and then tried to wait out the protests for months. When he tried banning protests and restricting free speech, his own Party began to rebel and so he fled.

A huge number of Russian-speaking Ukrainians then turned on him once they saw just how enormous the guy's house was.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 11:26:37 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: tcrlaf

Tell it like it is, tcrlaf. You’ll start posting from other news sources when they start following your beloved Putin.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 11:37:41 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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