Posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:44 PM PDT by BurningOak
Kiev, Ukraine (CNN) -- A perilous face-off intensified Saturday when Russia state news complained that Ukraine had mobilized 15,000 troops in the suburbs of Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine "in order to wipe out the city and its residents."
Quoting a Russian Defense Ministry source, RIA Novosti said satellite photos showed the force forming around the city that has become a friction point between the Ukraine military and pro-Russian militants.
The Defense Ministry source said the number of Ukraine troops put the pro-Russian militants at a disadvantage because the latter are "armed only with small amount of pistols and shotguns." Many eastern Ukraine residents have Russian roots and sympathize with Moscow.
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Can you please provide evidence and details of this claim, provided you do not source a Russian-controlled media outlet?
Putin is an adulterer, murderer, liar, thief, and KGB dog. In what way does he hold the moral high ground over Obama?
Right Sector has about 2000 members in total, not including the ones in jail or dead. Nor do they actually have any members in the Ukrainian Rada. Svoboda, which can also be accused, polls between 11 percent to the single digits, depending on the poll you look at.
Accusations that the government in Kyiv is run by Nazis is evidence of gross ignorance in the poster.
http://rt.com/news/154580-journalist-ntv-russian-ukraine/
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-journalists-denied-entry-in-ukraine-342442.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/russian-journalists-detained-in-ukraine-released/25352470.html
Try google...
How do you think Russia ever gained so much land to begin with? Russia's history of invading its smaller, weaker neighbors is a long one. Nations have a right to decide their own destiny without having to bow to the whims of a homicidal nation where officers rape baby-faced recruits and force them into prostitution, and all of this under the protection of the regime in Moscow.
Knockout gas.
NATO is no longer the good guys and is expansionist on behalf of the EU. The EU leaders are not elected. And they support breaking up nations into smaller parts, ask the Balkans.
They fought to establish Al Qeida in Libya and Syria.
And this spreading freedom of NATO. Is that why they were horny to bomb on behalf of al qeida in Syria?
For bonus points, explain why if the EU loves Ukrainians so much, that the agreement wouldn’t let Ukrainians freely travel into the EU?
A google search reveals that there are currently 16 people being held captive by Russian backed goons. The ones that were released report being beaten and jailed. A BBC reporter recently had a gun put to her head.
You have an example of 3 people from a propaganda network detained for one day, and released the next, with no mention of any kind of abuse, nor did you provide any context or explanation for it.
“Both sides want hegemony but one side promotes freedom and personal rights while the other side is an imperialist dictatorship.”
Individual rights,,in the EU? Really wanna go down that road? Homeschool in Germany. Say you disagree with gays or moslems in England. Write about any number of topics in Austria or Germany. Desire to keep your paycheck in France. Discuss moslems raping their way through Norway. Oppose Erdogan in Turkey.
Then come back and tell us about personal rights in the EU.
Why are you still posting? Your relativistic red herrings do not exonerate the murderous and thieving Kremlin. Leftist ideologists use this method to disarm American patriotism and leave us susceptible to communist aggression.
I’m wrong about a lot of things in life sparky. But on Slavyansk,,,I know my way around. Literally.
“Every time you describe what happened as a “coup,” you are spreading Kremlin lies.”
I meant to say the putsch, sorry.
And gosh, I’m realllllly sorry on not getting your permission before I leave a thread. I make my points, and when im done, I go onto other things. My surfing is about me and my goals. I could argue with you for 14 hours, and it wouldn’t change a thing. So I just make my points to let others read it and ponder my opinion. And also of course, to hopefully make you pop a critical vessel. Lunatic.
“Right Sector has about 2000 members in total, not including the ones in jail or dead. Nor do they actually have any members in the Ukrainian Rada.”
Setting up armed camp in the buildings surrounding the Rada, and publically announcing that they are there to make sure the Rada doesn’t forget to fear them,,,,,is indeed, a kind of Rada membership. In a dark and creepy way.
“You repeat this in every thread but you always run away like a little girl when I challenge you on it.”
I don’t like to keep you up late on school nights :)
An anecdote from a Kremlin apologist does not trump actual polling data wherein people are asked their opinions. Forgive me for not taking some random apologist for Moscow as a legitimate source.
And gosh, I’m realllllly sorry on not getting your permission before I leave a thread. I make my points, and when im done, I go onto other things. My surfing is about me and my goals.
Your goals are apparently to be annoying. Notice that instead of answering the facts, you start shamelessly whining like a liberal. I do not care about you or about what baseless points you have to make. I do not want to know your methodology, or your purposes, or about your feelings, or your outrage. Conservatives operate rationally, not emotionally.
Setting up armed camp in the buildings surrounding the Rada, and publically announcing that they are there to make sure the Rada doesn’t forget to fear them,,,,,is indeed, a kind of Rada membership. In a dark and creepy way.
I notice how you changed from "surrounded" by armed camps, in the plural, to now singular. So how big is the camp you are referring to and can you tell me where it is, how many people are in it, how many of them are members of Right Sector, and provide a link with details about it from a non-Kremlin controlled media outlet?
Exactly.
Sure we have tens of thousands of troops on the Ukraine border ourselves, but the Ukraine is threatening us by preparing to defend itself.
How unfair!
“Why are you still posting?”
Make up your mind sport, in this thread you say both, I leave too soon, and stayed too long. You’re like that retarded bank robbery scene in an old movie called “Raising Arizona”.
“Freeze and Get on the ground”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrDQrb5PITc
Welll,,, which is it young feller? Should I freeze? Or get on the ground?
The moral high ground? Are you on crack?
Last time I checked, journalists who criticised EU leaders didn’t get poisoned or thrown in jail.
But that’s what happens to journalists in Russia who dare to criticise Putin.
I guess you missed that important difference between Western countries and Russia’s gangster government.
Stumbling our way to disaster..... 2014 meet 1914....
Has the Obama regime ever been on the good side of any fight?
or even on the least evil side in any fight?
Why are so many now believing that Obama has for once chosen the right or even the least evil side in this mess in Ukraine?
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