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How Now White Cowman ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | 25 Apr 2014 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/26/2014 2:32:07 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Like everyone else, Gavin McInnes has weighed in on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's observations on "the Negro". Mr McInnes concludes:

This isn't about some old guy's views on slavery. It's about government control. We're not saying Bundy is the messiah and we accept him as our personal savior. We're saying the government is wrong.

Let's stipulate that Cliven Bundy is a racist. Let's also assume, if only to save time, that he's Islamophobic, homophobic and transphobic. So what? Does that make criticizing the Bureau of Land Management "racist" or "homophobic"?

(Excerpt) Read more at steynonline.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; grazingrights; grazingstatistics; marksteyn; steyn
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To: Altura Ct.

Read Steyn’s column that is NOT his conclusion at all


21 posted on 04/26/2014 4:55:13 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Smokin' Joe

Read the column....Steyn has it right. It is well thought out and well said. He agrees with you in case you didn’t know


22 posted on 04/26/2014 4:56:06 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Smokin' Joe
Seriously, Bundy is as racist as a White Hispanic.

< /SARC>

Damn, the media can take out anyone they don't like.

We will never be able to forward a champion in the face of such withering lie fire ('v' deliberately omitted from 'live').

23 posted on 04/26/2014 5:03:28 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: ImNotLying
How people can sit back and watch their individual freedoms being taken away and not say a word is beyond me.

You'd be surprised how many people, including many on FR, don't care about others' individual freedoms being lost if it doesn't personally affect them. It sickens me.

24 posted on 04/26/2014 5:31:42 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: Rummyfan

This article seems to be evidence that the charge of “racism” is losing its sting. The author asks the fatal question: “are the actions of the BLM made right if we call Bundy a racist?” Grant that he is a racist, sexist, homophobe the BLM was still wrong. Let Steyn’s attitude spread.


25 posted on 04/26/2014 5:31:53 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: junta

Agreed. Steyn’s article is an attempt to do that.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 5:37:34 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Nifster
Yes, Steyn understands the power of the media to brand someone in order to keep their message from getting out, as well as to provide the excuse (in the public psyche) to justify killing them, in extremis. "Demonization" was done to the Weavers with incendiary language, each sylable setting the meme. Words like "compound", "assault weapon", "ambush", any of a number of groups who are supposed to be decried because of their beliefs (and therefore are to be considered "evil"), "Big" (as if that in itself made someone/thing evil), "racist", _____-ophobe (fill in the blank), etc., are slapped together for maximum effect, making their focus somehow subhuman and not worthy of Rights like the wonderful folk who seek to rob, destroy, or kill them (for the good of the collective).

Steyn has been the target of such rhetoric, so he gets it, but so many who should have been stalwart in the breach cut and ran instead.

27 posted on 04/26/2014 5:49:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn is batting a thousand... And every hit a home run.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 5:50:19 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rummyfan
I don't know if Bundy is the racist he's been made out to be. I still don't know why he expounded on the problems of the black underclass (goaded into it?), but he is not far wrong in that they exchanged one form of slavery for another.

And those libs who view the law as sacrosanct (the laws they like), earnestly invoke Thoreau when breaking laws they don't like...which are numerous. Just see how much sympathy the people who trash logging sites or protesters who cross boundary lines at nuclear or military facilities get from libs. Then breaking the law is just fine...isn't that right John Stewart?

In short, most libs are incredible hypocrites about the law...including the president who is himself a criminal lawbreaker by refusing to enforce existing immigration laws.

29 posted on 04/26/2014 6:03:46 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: ImNotLying
>>But then again, our choices at the ballot box these days are pretty slimy.<<

The reason folks are beginning to stand up and push back is because of the slimy choices at the ballot box.

We are witnessing corruption in the electoral process like never before in our history. The federal gubbamint using all it's agencies power to alter American elections.

When our only peaceful means to enact change is polluted by evil men, then folks will stand up. The only way to get a bully to back down...stand up and punch’em in the nose.

These lil twits that permeate our gubbamint pick on ordinary law abiding folks utilizing the full force of the federal agency from behind a desk.

What they need is a good ol fashion @$$ whoopin. Scuff up their knees and elbows a bit, then send’em home sniveling.

I look at photos of wussys like Holder, Obozo, Panetta, Biden, Reid, Boehner...that's what I see. Little punks that use the power of elected office to push folks around.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 6:21:52 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MarMema

“a free people will cheerfully abandon bedrock principles like equality before the law if state power is being used to torment a racist or a homophobe or someone whose very presence offends against the citizenry’s sense of its own virtue.”
Isn’t this what happened when so many people didn’t vote for Romney, not that I am defending him, but would rather go with a Marxist then with a rich capitalist?


31 posted on 04/26/2014 6:29:01 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: All

I don’t care if Bundy said he wanted to see the constitution turned back to 1789, at least he knows there is one.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 6:39:30 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Rummyfan

Ya knew this was coming.
He’s also a Mormon—wait ‘till they get into that.

It’s a good gauge on how out of touch the “GOP” can be when defending our rights. At ANY criticism, they go to auto-cringe, roll over and play dead.

He’s waayycyst, of course. That goes without sayin.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 6:39:43 AM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE, mohammmud a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON!)
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To: EverOnward
You're missing the point: Steyn isn't saying Bundy is a racist, he is saying that is a misdirection to change the debate. In terms of what the whole Federal bureaucracy run amuck issue, what Cliven Bundy thinks about brown people is irrelevant. Whether Bundy is a Mother Theresa to American minorities or a David Duke is an entirely separate and irrelevant discussion.

He is one man, and if he is a threat to anyone the sheriff can pick him up.

The BLM is a standing army with nothing better to do than lord over and steal land for Harry Reid's corrupt deals.

Cliven Bundy is not a racist, but the NYT is a pack of liars. And that we already knew. I really don't care what they think of anyone. I think too much of my parakeet to even put it in the bottom of his cage.

34 posted on 04/26/2014 6:43:45 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: EverOnward

“Bundy didn’t say anything Bill Cosby hasn’t been saying for years.”

Cosby said it may be better to have been a slave with a family life who learned how to pick cotton?


35 posted on 04/26/2014 6:44:52 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: driftless2
but he is not far wrong in that they exchanged one form of slavery for another.

The real creeps in this argument are the heirs of the old Southern Democrats - in their minds they have devised a way to keep poor and uneducated people in their voting bloc - by keeping them poor, uneducated, and dependent on them for their room and board.

36 posted on 04/26/2014 6:50:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Rummyfan
Steyn is seeing the present and projects it into the future.

It is not pretty. It's frightening.

37 posted on 04/26/2014 6:53:04 AM PDT by Gritty (Gun controllers aren't afraid of guns but a country where the individual has power-Dan Greenfield)
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To: Fuzz

Neither did no such thing...

Mr. Bundy was asking a question...”is the black better off as a slave, with a family, food, housing, etc. or are they better off being a slave to the government?” It was framed as a question making a comparison between the 2.

“Pick cotton” is a euphimism for WORK...

Mr. Bundy fails in the articulation and the stay on topic departments and that’s all...

Anyone of us who is not an experienced public speaker, familiar with the ways of the leftist propaganda arm could have fallen into the same trap laid for him...

And the “isolate, marginalize and polarize” tactic is being worked against Mr. Bundy right here on FR...who would of thought?


38 posted on 04/26/2014 6:55:00 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ImNotLying

How about “people of color”...is that permissible?


39 posted on 04/26/2014 6:55:24 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: kiltie65

People of color is too broad

Besides, the decision is made....... black is the only PC acceptable word to describe negros of all variations and genetic makeup.

The “civil rights” movement needs all to be alike to be successful. There can be no splitting tolerated. No mulatto, no high yellow no differentiation. There can be no difference between the girlfriend of a zillionaire basket ball player and a common street ho.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 7:00:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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