Posted on 04/25/2014 9:53:26 AM PDT by No One Special
More than Benghazi skeletons should haunt Hillary Clinton's expected 2016 presidential bid. It now seems that the entire war in Libya -- where thousands died in a civil war in which no U.S. interest was at stake -- might well have been averted on her watch and, of course, that of President Obama's. How? In March 2011, immediately after NATO's punishing bombing campaign began, Muammar Qaddafi was "ready to step aside," says retired Rear Admiral Charles R. Kubic, U.S. Navy. "He was willing to go into exile and was willing to end the hostilities."
What happened? According to Kubic, the Obama administration chose to continue the war without permitting a peace parley to go forward.
Kubic made these extremely incendiary charges against the Obama administration while outlining his role as the leading, if informal, facilitator of peace feelers from the Libyan military to the U.S. military. He was speaking this week at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., where the Citizens' Commission on Benghazi was presenting its interim report. Kubic maintains that to understand Benghazi, the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks in which four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed, "you have to understand what happened at the beginning of the Libyan revolt, and how that civil war that created the chaos in Libya could have been prevented."
Particularly in light of his senior military experience, Kubic's eyewitness story demands careful consideration. Like everything else about Benghazi, it also demands the official focus of a select committee investigation in Congress.
A short chronology sets the stage:
-- On March 19, 2011, Hillary Clinton, then secretary of state, made a dramatic announcement from Paris on behalf of the "international community."
Eyes steady, voice freighted with dignity and moment, Clinton demanded that Qaddafi -- a post-9/11 ally of the U.S. against jihadist terror-armies such as al-Qaida -- heed a ceasefire under a newly adopted United Nations resolution, or else.
"Yesterday, President Obama said very clearly that if Qaddafi failed to comply with these terms, there would be consequences," Clinton said. "Since the president spoke, there has been some talk from Tripoli of a cease-fire, but the reality on the ground tells a very different story. Colonel Gaddafi continues to defy the world. His attacks on civilians go on."
That same day, NATO air and sea forces went to war to defeat the anti-al-Qaida Qaddafi and bring victory to Libya's al-Qaida-linked rebels. Uncle Sam, as I've often written since, joined the jihad.
Through Libyan intermediaries whom he knew in his post-naval career as an engineer and businessman, Kubic was hearing that Qaddafi wanted to discuss his own possible abdication with the U.S. "Let's keep the diplomats out of it," Kubic says he told them. "Let's keep the politicians out of it, let's just have a battlefield discussion under a flag of truce between opposing military commanders pursuant to the laws of war, and see if we can, in short period of time, come up with the terms for a cease-fire and a transition of government."
-- The following day, March 20, 2011, Kubic says he relayed to the U.S. AFRICOM headquarters Qaddafi's interest in truce talks as conveyed by a top Libyan commander, Gen. Abdulqader Yusef Dubri, head of Qaddafi's personal security team. Kubic says that his AFRICOM contact, Lt. Col. Brian Linvill, a former U.S. Army attache in Tripoli then serving as point man for communications with the Libyan military, passed this information up his chain of command to Gen. Carter Ham, then AFRICOM commander. AFRICOM quickly responded with interest in setting up direct military-to-military communications with the Libyans.
-- On March 21, 2011, Kubic continued, with the NATO war heating up, a senior aide to Qadaffi, Gen. Ahmed Mamud, directly submitted a set of terms for a 72-hour-truce to Linvill at AFRICOM. The Benghazi commission made the basic text of these terms available to press.
During a follow-up telephone interview I had with Kubic, he underscored the show of good faith on both sides that created hopefulness that these flag-of-truce negotiations would come to pass. On the night of March 21, Gen. Ham issued a public statement on Libya in which he noted the U.S. was not targeting Qaddafi.
-- By March 22, Qadaffi had verifiably begun pulling back troops from the rebel-held cities of Benghazi and Misrata. The cease-fire Hillary Clinton said the "international community" was seeking only days earlier seemed to be within reach, with the endgame of Qaddafi's abdication and exile potentially on the table.
Then, shockingly, Kubic got what amounted to a "stand down" order from AFRICOM -- an order that came down from "well above Gen. Ham," Kubic says he was told -- in fact, as Kubic said in our interview, he was told it came from outside the Pentagon.
The question becomes, who in the Obama administration scuttled these truce talks that might have resulted in Qaddafi handing over powers without the bloodshed and destruction that left Libya a failed state and led to Benghazi?
Had talks gone forward, there is no guarantee, of course, that they would have been successful. Qaddafi surely would have tried to extract conditions. One of them, Kubic believes, would have been to ensure that Libya continue its war on al-Qaida. Would this have been a sticking point? In throwing support to Islamic jihadists, including al-Qaida-linked "rebels" and Muslim Brotherhood forces, the U.S. was changing sides during that "Arab Spring." Was the war on Qaddafi part of a larger strategic realignment that nothing, not even the prospect of saving thousands of lives, could deter? Or was the chance of going to war for "humanitarian" reasons too dazzling to lose to the prospect of peace breaking out? Or was it something else?
Kubic, the military man, wonders why the civilian leadership couldn't at least explore a possibly peaceful resolution. "It is beyond me that we couldn't give it 72 hours -- particularly when we had a leader who had won a Nobel Peace Prize, and who was unable basically to 'give peace a chance' for 72 hours."
It's beyond all of us, I'm afraid -- unless a Select Committee on Benghazi finally comes together to do the people's business.
it was not about ending kadhaffi’s reign, it was abotu arming the muslim brotherhood
Sec. of Hate Hillary Clinton took credit for the warcrime torture, abuse, and murder of a POW named Momar Gaddafi “WE came, WE saw, HE DIED!!! (ha ha ha cackle)”
Precisely.
The queer-in-charge, at last demonstrating his smallness, by going after another small-minded dictator, yes, I said another, who he thought he could whip.
Qaddafi had built up Libya into most advanced country in North Africa and he was in the process of building up the rest of the continent. The Globalist Agenda is to wreck civilization and any advanced sovereign nation that might resist One World Government.
The goals of the Globalist Campaign in Libya, spearheaded by the Hildabeast, was to kill Qaddafi, wreck Libyan infrastructure and its economic and political system. They would use Libyan weapons to arm Al-Qaeda, the sword of the NWO, to wreck Syria.
Qaddafi was also preventing mass African illegal immigration into Europe. With him gone the waves of Third world illegal immigrants have been crossing into Europe, helping to wreck the native cultures there and driving them further into the clutches of the Globalist EU.
Mistakes were made.
At one point, son was in Qaddafi's house and following him upstairs to his bedroom. A guard stopped him, said Qaddafi didn't want the CIA to find out exactly where his bedroom was in that house.
In essence, then, Qaddafi was terrified of the US, lived every day afraid they would kill him. It sounds logical Qaddafi would have made a truce with the US in order to save his life.
Of course they chose war to get rid of Ghaddafi. How else could they facilitate getting al-Qaeda in place in and around Benghazi to coordinate arms transfers to jihadis in Syria?
Yep... thus his sudden surrender of WMDs after the U.S. invaded Iraq. In order to move arms to terrorists in Syria, this regime decided it needed Ghaddafi out of power in Libya.
Qaddafi and China had come to an oil futures agreement at the expense of Libya's traditional customer, France.
Should... but won't. Unfortunately, Americans don't want to hear any more of that sordid little episode. They figure it's all in the past and the families of the four victims will just have to move on.
Cherche la femme. In other words, follow the money. Under khadaffy Libya had some 5 Trillion banked. Literally the ONLY country in the world in the black. Now, no khadaffy. Where is the money? Crickets...
I’m sure this will be on the evening news.
Unlike Assad, Qaddafi did turn over his WMDs.
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I think Saddam had similar plans before he was zapped.
That's a fact, with the addition that Saddam was also constructing a strong offensive military capability.
Saddam's idea was to lead, and economically benefit from, a loosely held federation of Arab states.
Check Obama’s pockets.
While you're at it, check Soro's pockets, too, what you don't find there is with the IMF.
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