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Immigration, America’s Advantage: The right immigrants replenish the nation with productive citizens
National Review ^ | 04/25/2014 | Lee Habeeb and Mike Leven

Posted on 04/25/2014 6:41:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrants; immigration; population
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1 posted on 04/25/2014 6:41:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Conversely, the “wrong” immigrants drain the company of vitality and resources.


2 posted on 04/25/2014 6:43:21 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind
Well if it's that wonderful then let's just forget about borders and throw the doors wide open! According to these authors there doesn't seem to be a downside.

What these tools always forget is that a nation is more than an economy.

3 posted on 04/25/2014 6:44:50 AM PDT by turducken
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To: SeekAndFind

If we slowed or stopped ALL immigration for several years (or decades), the American birthrate would increase. The parties just want cheap, stupid workers & stupid voters.


4 posted on 04/25/2014 6:46:01 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Both parties in America, are selling out America.

The first party stop the sellout, and finally stand for America, will take over.

Republicans, stand for America.


5 posted on 04/25/2014 6:47:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SeekAndFind
I would go as far as to guess that even most immigrants over the last couple decades have been honest hard working people just looking for a better chance at life.

That is... until they get corrupted by the Liberal agenda with promises of getting something for nothing. Fortunately, we do have some good immigrants. For those who ever watched Undercover Boss, I still love this guy from the 7-Eleven episode.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/richardson-lake-highlands/headlines/20121118-former-7-eleven-truck-driver-now-runs-his-own-richardson-store--exuberantly.ece

6 posted on 04/25/2014 6:49:19 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: turducken

Make the system work for Americans. Bringing in H1B should only happen when unemployment among Americans - especially more senior ones falls. Don’t make it easy to avoid hiring Americans. Wages are stagnant, let them rise due to our own market demands.

http://www.npr.org/2013/02/19/172373123/older-tech-workers-oppose-increasing-h-1b-visas


7 posted on 04/25/2014 6:51:45 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems half the GOPe is playing for Team Dem these days. The Dems love a divided GOP and must be enjoying this immensely.


8 posted on 04/25/2014 6:53:09 AM PDT by lodi90
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Agreed. These CEOs demanding more immigration want to keep wages low and they disguise this desire with flowery language about the rights of immigrants.

You think Zuckerberg really cares about immigrants as an oppressed class? He wants programmers to stay cheap - period

9 posted on 04/25/2014 6:54:08 AM PDT by turducken
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To: turducken

Check out the Canadian system.

It is actually a pretty good immigration system.


10 posted on 04/25/2014 6:54:12 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: SeekAndFind

And, the current crop replenishes the criminal element within the nation.

1. Secure the borders
2. Deport all illegals
3. Prosecute employers who knowingly hire illegals
4. Demand proof of citizenship for all welfare benefits


11 posted on 04/25/2014 6:55:03 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: lodi90

The GOP is useless. Plus they have these drones at the National Review providing cover for their nation-wrecking shenanigans.


12 posted on 04/25/2014 6:55:32 AM PDT by turducken
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To: SeekAndFind

A sustainable birth rate replenishes our country better than immigration.


13 posted on 04/25/2014 6:55:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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It was the Inconvenient Truth of its day. The book was The Population Bomb, by Paul Ehrlich, published in 1968. Ehrlich made some apocalyptic predictions about resource depletion and mass starvation resulting from population growth. A frightened public devoured the book. But Ehrlich got some things wrong. He didn’t factor into his thinking technological change and the growth of free enterprise around the world, both of which have done much to ameliorate global poverty and hunger. The biggest thing he got wrong, though, was that he failed to foresee this: The population is now shrinking in many parts of the world. Entire nations, even continents, are committing slow-motion suicide by not making babies. A more prescient title of Ehrlich’s book would have been “The Population Bust.”

Out of curiosity, I recently acquired his follow-up book The End of Affluence. I'm sure it's just as accurate!

14 posted on 04/25/2014 6:56:17 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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The population is now shrinking in many parts of the world.

Not really true, yet.

Births have been below replacement level for some time in many countries, which means population will eventually start dropping, but it hasn't happened in many countries yet.

It may not be a permanent trend even in those countries. For instance, Russian population dropped considerably after Communism collapsed, but has grown somewhat in recent years.

Japan is one of the few countries with an actual decline going on. South Korea isn't far behind, with population drop expected to start around 2025.

15 posted on 04/25/2014 6:57:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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LA and the rest of California are over run with illegals from third world countries who have no education and speak little or no English.

If you engage most anyone who has lived in Cali since the 70s or so in a candid discussion, they will concede that things just don’t work has smoothly or efficiently as they did back then and there is far more graft and corruption than there used to be


16 posted on 04/25/2014 6:58:30 AM PDT by rdcbn
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few come with elderly parents, which immensely helps our worker-to-retiree ratio. That's right.. at least until senior housing and other benefits can be secured and the parents brought here then.

IIRC in the 1990s foreign elderly were the largest number on SSI (not SSDI, disability) -- SSI is run by but not part of SS, you need a monthly check you get one whether or not you ever contributed a penny. There was "reform" passed in 1996 which at first reduced the SSI checks -- at least until the parents could become citizens. The housing, food, health care, and more continued to be delivered but SSI was temporarily stopped IIRC.

When the authors at National Review, et al are subject to being replaced by the magnificent immigrants then I'll support NR, et al.

17 posted on 04/25/2014 6:59:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yawn. More tired slogans and bogus advocacy research.

How do the writers explain the FACT that immigrants overwhelmingly vote for the party of big government, and further explain how that will not result in an increasingly overbearing and a freedom-stifling state?

There are things that are not worth a robust stock market. My God given liberties, for one.

18 posted on 04/25/2014 7:01:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind
Back in 2008, Bill Gates told members of Congress that for every immigrant hired at technology companies, an average of five additional employees were added.

Correlation/causation fallacy, anyone?

19 posted on 04/25/2014 7:02:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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What a load of crap. Can’t help but point out all the B.S.:

“Consider that just four million babies are born annually in the U.S,” Jonathan Last wrote in The Weekly Standard last year. “If you strip these immigrants — and their relatively high fertility rates — from our population profile, America suddenly looks an awful lot like continental Europe.”

…and if you keep allowing unfettered immigration proceed, we’ll look a lot like Mexico. Great.

In addition, SSA’s chief actuary, Stephen Goss, predicted that new legal and illegal immigrants, who currently come to the U.S. at the net rate of 1.08 million each year, will increase the Social Security trust fund by $500 billion over 25 years and by $4 trillion over 75 years.

Wow, the author actually believes that illegal aliens register with the government so that they can pay taxes. This guy really believes that part of the wad of 20’s that you hand to the Hernandez crew for a landscaping job ends up in the Social Security “trust fund”. Mind-blowing ignorance.

We know that we’re not going to deport all of these people. Why we’re waiting so long to make these de facto citizens legal makes no political sense. And leaving entire families in limbo as we’re doing makes no moral sense.

Yes, and the logical progression of such a statement is to ask, “Why have border security at all?”.

In 2013, our government received 124,000 applications for the H-1B program in four days. But we took 85,000 as a result of a self-imposed cap.

This is just government incompetence on display. How about we put a cap on immigrants from nations that have a cultural hatred of Western values?

No one takes a berth in steerage because he heard that in America the government gives you stuff.

Wow, breath-taking B.S. How do you get so far in life believing such Pollyannish fantasies? For Pete’s sake, we’re advertising our social programs in Mexico!

20 posted on 04/25/2014 7:07:41 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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