Posted on 04/24/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher around whom some Republicans and conservative activists have rallied in a high-profile fight against the federal government, made disparaging comments about African-Americans in an interview with The New York Times published Thursday.
Bundy wondered if African-Americans might have been "better off" as slaves, referring to them as "the Negro."
From The Times' Adam Nagourney:
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
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First it was reported he was “overheard”. Then it was a Press Conference. Now it’s an interview.
“Americans will vote for Barack Obama because is is a light skinned African-American with no NEGRO dialect unless he wants one”. - Harry Reid
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
Questioned if they are better off under government subsides that destroys Black families, Black worth ethic.
This people, is how they marginalize anybody not schooled in presswork. He's now a characature and easily dismissed.
There was a time when the 'common man' was considered the backbone of our country. Now he's just a rube to be ridiculed.
And anybody that thinks they can stand against the PCPolice needs to look at how Palin is treated; and she's a hell of a lot smarter than 95% of us.
Unfortunately Mr. Bundy is wrong. Blacks are still slaves kept on the government plantation by Democrats. Based on conditions in one of the biggest plantations, Chicago, that should be obvious.
I haven’t been able to find any proof, video or otherwise that he said any of this yet many out there are willing to accept a NYT hit piece as gospel. This is another reason why the GOP and conservatives continually shoot themselves in the foot. Besides, what about what he allegedly said is racist?
It is coincidental that I was just discussing something similar to Bundy’s statement with my husband. I asked him if he thought that that the Progressive treatment of Blacks had similarities to the treatment of Native Americans and the reservation system. I was thinking about the effects of government dependency that destroyed the culture and the need to work to support themselves and their families. I was thinking how government dependency led to alcohol and drug dependency, all because the need to work was taken away.
My husband pointed out that the Blacks were much more amenable to government dependency than the Indians and that the Blacks weren’t put on reservations, but many of the Blacks were self segregating. The urban ghettos have a lot in common with reservations, except that they have no self government.
Where Bundy went wrong was saying that the Blacks would have been better off as slaves. I don’t think that is exactly what he meant. I think that he meant that moving from slavery to government dependency was a Pyrrhic victory. Slavery was ended just about the time that Whites were forming Trade Unions which were closed to Black membership, leaving Uneducated Blacks to work in only the most menial jobs, formerly performed by slaves in many cases.
I have not seen it written anywhere, but I would not be surprised if the push to empower the public sector unions over the trade unions was not partially based on some level of social justice for the former racist hiring practiced advocated by trade unions.
PLAY THE TAPE, OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!
Did NYTimes rehire Jayson Blair?
He’s the guy that made up stories, and invented, then quoted sources by name who don’t exist.
headline is a lie, but don’t lat that stop them...
“If a leftist professor were to say this,”
You might get a kick out of this story:
Cliven Bundy and his wife decided to travel to Washington DC to try and find out why the federal government hated them so much.
Unfortunately no congressman could find the time to meet with them, so they went to the National Gallery to soak up some culture.
One painting had them completely confused. It showed three very black and totally naked men sitting on a park bench. Two of the figures had black penises, but the one in the middle had a pink pecker.
A museum docent noticed their consternation and offered her assessment. After a half hour or so of her lecturing, the Bundys understood that the painting represented the sexual emasculation of African Americans in a predominately white, patriarchal society.
“In fact,” she pointed out, “in a recent New York Times article an art critic stated his belief that the pink phallus also represents the cultural and sociological oppression experienced by gay men in contemporary society, as well as the callousness shown by their fellow Americans who, quite frankly, should know better.”
The Bundys weren’t quite sure what to think, although they were unhappy about being thought of as insensitive, although Cliven was quite callused.
Then a young man in a W. VA Mountaineers tee-shirt approached them and said, “Would you like to know what the painting is really about?”
Rancher Bundy said, “You’re dang straight we would! But how would you know better than that expert woman and the Nyoo Yark Times newspaper?”
“Because I’m the guy who painted it,” he replied.
“In fact, there are no African Americans depicted at all.
“They’re just three West Virginia coal miners. The guy in the middle went home for lunch.”
I thought so too. Plus, his grammar is disturbing.
However, I think he has a point. I'm old enough to remember life before Lyndon Johnson's Great Society started encouraging gubmint dependence.
My father's company employed many black people, who were all perfectly charming, had job longevity, families they cared for, even tho they were in low-paying (but steady) restaurant jobs.
I actually drove down to the South Side of Chicago one Saturday evening with some equally nutzoid teenage girlfriends -- through totally black neighborhoods, and people were out with their kids, walking around, socializing, nobody seemed drunk and we didn't know what "stoned" meant. WE didn't belong there, but certainly were safe.
Try that today? Not in an armored tank.
Also, I read The History of the South by Simkin, first published in 1947 by Alfred Knopf, a topnotch publishing house. A few tidbits: Most slaves were well cared for, because, after all, they were investments and needed to be healthy to get the work done. Slaves' living quarters, meals, and general health were equal to paid workers in the North. Lots of statistical studies supported that. Dreadfully dangerous work, like clearing malaria-mosquito swamps, was done by Irish immigrants and other disposable workers. Couldn't risk losing valuable slaves. These assertions make perfect sense from an economic standpoint. But of course, this information has been suppressed by revisionist "historians."
My own family arrived on a Caribbean island in 1650, prior to the arrival of slaves. WE did the toughest work of clearing and planting. And we moved on to settle the South and eventually the West after our lands and fortunes were lost to the Civil War.
So, while I deplore Bundy's inelegant way of asserting what he perceives as the truth, I do see his point.
I don’t know if said what is attributed but what is reported hardly strikes me as racist.
Interesting post. My friend, partially Native American, tells me that reservations have their own 1% and the trickle down is anything but fair, especially the tribes who have casinos.
You might find my post about slaves interesting too: #57 on this thread
He's on tape saying it. It's been posted here already. From what I saw he wasn't even responding to a NY Times reporter at all, he was just giving a speech to his supporters. So yes, he said these things. Once a person starts talking about "the negro" being better off learning to pick cotton they've pretty much destroyed their cause.
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