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To: logi_cal869

Thanks for posting. Yeah, context is pretty important. The quote in this article is at about minute 17. He starts off pretty good at approx 10:00 in to the video he’s real good.

But then he takes a hard turn into stupidity around minute 12 with, “...take a look around, who is here are the coloreds here the Mexican...” and then it gets worse from there.

“Who was burning those cities [during the race riots] was it ‘We the people’ or was it black people”. Approximately minute 15. (Note, of course it’s a fact the blacks burned the cities but the implication he’s making is that black people are NOT ‘We the people’, see above.)

Listen to the whole thing up until minute 21 for goodness sakes. Yeah, context is going to show his comments weren’t racist. NOT.

Seems to me the Times actually quoted some of his tamer stuff!

Honestly, if anyone disagrees that what he was saying was racist well quite frankly you’re probably racist yourself. And go ahead and call me a race baiter if it makes you feel better about your defense of the indefensible.

Honestly, I expect more from FReepers. I expect some intellectual honesty.


277 posted on 04/24/2014 12:47:09 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I agree with you. Conservatives shouldn’t be defending or making excuses for those comments from Bundy no matter how much sympathy and support he deserves on the land rights issue.


280 posted on 04/24/2014 12:56:07 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: FourtySeven
“Who was burning those cities [during the race riots] was it ‘We the people’ or was it black people”. Approximately minute 15. (Note, of course it’s a fact the blacks burned the cities but the implication he’s making is that black people are NOT ‘We the people’, see above.)

Again, you seem to see everything thru a racial prism. The "We the people" he was referring to was society in general. These were race riots by one race. Is it racist to suggest that blacks were the ones burning down the cities and not some multiracial group reflective of the society as a whole who was doing the damage?

Recently, we try not to characterize the "flash mobs" that rush into stores and steal goods as being black, yet they are. The "knockout game" is almost entirely black on white and Asian violence with very few exceptions--and those rare exceptions are the ones covered extensively by the MSM.

"An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white -- with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study."

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides -- in America?

You should read, White Girl Bleed a Lot: the Return of Racial Violence to America to understand what true racism is about. And it is racism that goes beyond mere words or perceived insults.

283 posted on 04/24/2014 1:07:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: FourtySeven

You know what racists do? They call others racist. That’s intellectually dishonest. If it was intentional, this is my reply and I will ignore your posts. If it was general and misplaced, I will accept your apology when given.

I work for a living, entering a new career and expend much more time at FR than I can afford, which included finding that video and posting it such as to prevent FReepers from going off the handle on false accusations of fake quotes and what-not.

I skipped through the video to find the quote for that purpose. If you’re right, I will discover that. But given the veracity of opinions here, pardon if I don’t take your word for it, as my definition of ‘racist’ is not a liberal’s but, as defined, quite liberal. I adhere to my ideals, which parallel many others here. My experience shapes me much as others’ do their own.

What I listened to wasn’t racist.

If my open mind and my time investment here isn’t good enough, then your opinion is just that. I’m sitting on the analogue...

If you want to drive home your point, then download some transcription software and transcribe the entire interview; you obviously have more time than some or most here.


293 posted on 04/24/2014 2:20:56 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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