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All New England Could Fit on BLM Land in Nevada; BLM Owns 0 Acres in New England
CNSNews ^ | 4/23/2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 04/24/2014 7:33:32 AM PDT by rktman

The acreage the federal Bureau of Land Management currently owns in the state of Nevada is more than all the land in all of the states of New England combined, according to data published by the Congressional Research Service.

By contrast, the BLM does not own a single acre of land in any New England state.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; overlords
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If I remember correctly, (which is questionable) Nevada was "compelled" to grant the US govt the land in order to be granted statehood. Nevada 150th anniversary is this year. Seems like a lot of land for forts and depots to me.
1 posted on 04/24/2014 7:33:32 AM PDT by rktman
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The gov’t needs Areas too.....likely at least 51 of them.


2 posted on 04/24/2014 7:40:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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“If I remember correctly, (which is questionable) Nevada was “compelled” to grant the US govt the land in order to be granted statehood. Nevada 150th anniversary is this year. Seems like a lot of land for forts and depots to me.”

I believe that that’s the case for virtually all the Western States where the Feds “own” huge portions of the land. Seems to me that this poses a Constitutional question that should be bubbled up to the SCOTUS before all of them are Communists as opposed to just a growing minority. A couple more “Wise Latinas” and Fat (or really skinny) Jewish girls and we’re done.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 7:42:29 AM PDT by vette6387
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Seems like a lot of land for forts and depots to me.

That's because you're totally forgetting about the other needful buildings.
4 posted on 04/24/2014 7:44:19 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Paladin2

51 never did and never will exist. Remember? LOL! Some of the comments after the piece are spot on. Since “we”(supposedly) are the govt, (of, by, for)then “we” own the land and the blm is simply the manager of “our” land. Well, probably won’t work out that way. Kinda like the NV health/obiecare ads where the actors state they couldn’t afford health insurance before but now that the “govt” is going to be paying some or all they can be covered. Seems like the lyin’ king’s money tree is still growing money.

P.S. We kinda know where #51 is but where are the other 50?


5 posted on 04/24/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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I don’t believe the BLM even existed when they became states. Plus the BLM isn’t the only way the feds control land.

Here in Michigan the state holds clear title to nearly a half million acres with the feds owning some 250,000 more. Much of the state land is slowly being ceded to the feds.

That doesn’t include the regulatory control the feds have over lots of public and private lands.


6 posted on 04/24/2014 7:56:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman

I’d start the Search using a Light in extreme Southern Nevada.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 7:58:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Release all BLM federal lands to the states.

While they are at it, turn all of the residential portions of D.C. back over to Maryland and Virginia. D.C. should consist entirely of the small portion where federal buildings are located (e.g., the Mall).

It will never happen, but it should.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 8:00:19 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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9 posted on 04/24/2014 8:01:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Paladin2

Hmmmm. Somewhere between Vegas and Laughlin maybe? I’m pretty sure there’s a “black hole” somewhere along that stretch of road.


10 posted on 04/24/2014 8:06:15 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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The BLM owns 0 acres of land in Nevada too.

I don’t like the term “BLM Land”. It is public land that is managed by the Federal government. It certainly doesn’t belong to the BLM.


11 posted on 04/24/2014 8:16:32 AM PDT by kidd
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"It certainly doesn’t belong to the BLM."

That's not what these guys think:


12 posted on 04/24/2014 8:25:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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So I guess the “M” in blm is correct to a certain degree. They kinda manage the land. Control the land. Deny access to “our” land. We know the drill. Seems like some folks forget that without productive citizens to provide the tax dollars, there’s no money for anything the govt does. From aircraft carriers to ebt cards.


13 posted on 04/24/2014 8:30:19 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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Michigan was part of the Northwest Territory and fedgovs policy of dispersing those lands were successful because it is in the wet zone and the small allotments could generate a living.

In the desert west it didn't work. Nobody wanted the land. Nevada has the most desert so it has the most federal land.

Bundy's family(and many others) homesteaded that small acreage for free but they could make a living only because they had a low cost grazing lease on a lot of acres. And those grazing leases were semi-perpetual.

Back then fed gov had no way of regulating those lands, but gradually thru time they did. The Sagebrush Rebellion coincides with FLPMA 1976.

14 posted on 04/24/2014 8:39:45 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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I encourage all FReepers to do a little research into how much land in their own states is under federal AND state control. Its surprisingly hard to get a clear idea about.


I put together a quick composite map of state and federal land in Michigan and there are still federally owned pieces missing like Pictured Rocks National lakeshore and all the islands under federal or state control. (Not a perfect map but you get the idea) The map doesn't include buffer management and protected watershed zones etc.

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The states are marginally better "owners" than the feds but are slowly ceding land to the feds all over the place.
15 posted on 04/24/2014 8:46:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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"...BLM Owns 0 Acres in New England..."

Does the government, then, lease all the New England lands where it operates air bases and army posts, etc?

16 posted on 04/24/2014 9:42:17 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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If I remember correctly, (which is questionable) Nevada was “compelled” to grant the US govt the land in order to be granted statehood. Nevada 150th anniversary is this year. Seems like a lot of land for forts and depots to me.””

The local info about Nevada & statehood goes back to the days of the Civil War when the military & the Feds needed SILVER & LEAD to fight the war.

They granted Nevada statehood. I never heard anything about Nevada having to grant over such lands. Nevada was wooded by the Lincoln administration.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 9:44:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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The BLM doesn’t own land, it manages it. And the BLM also manages no land in New York. Or New Jersey. Or Virginia. Or North Carolina, South Carolina, Deleware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, or Georgia because those states predate the federal government as it currently exists under the Constitution. The Federal government owns no land in those states that was not purchased or deeded to it by the states themselves.


18 posted on 04/24/2014 9:48:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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If I remember correctly, (which is questionable) Nevada was “compelled” to grant the US govt the land in order to be granted statehood.

If you look at the enabling acts for states like Utah and Wyoming and Arizona and New Mexico and Washington and most of the other western states they all have clauses saying that the people disclaiming all rights to federal property not granted to the state by the government.

19 posted on 04/24/2014 9:52:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I think the feds started owning with the Northwest Territories.

The original colonies got a pass because they were already there.

The feds did a survey which included settling some border disputes of the original states and parceled out the territories. They sold off land in the territories to retire the federal debt, mostly from the revolution.

That became the model for territories throughout the 1800s.

Source: The Fabric of America


20 posted on 04/24/2014 9:53:59 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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