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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“God doesn’t certify them.”

He does - through the Church to which He gave authority.

“No where in Scripture is there a certifying body.”

False. The Apostles served as the certify body in the early Church. Peter, for instance, explains the gift of tongues (a miracle). That would show a recognition of the miracle as a miracle.

“Peter walked down the street and as his shadow fell on people they were healed.”

Yes.

“Today, we have “miracles lite” - someone prays to someone who is departed, doesn’t know if they are heard, assumes they were the cause, a committee stamps a big yes on it, and then the number is tallied to proclaim someone a saint.”

Miracle lite? If someone is healed, it isn’t “lite”. It is “kabod” (”heavy”, “glory”: Strong’s #3519b).

“It is all bogus.”

Nope. Christ - working through Padre Pio - healed Gemma who was born blind because she was born without pupils. Afterward she could see. She STILL has no pupils. That’s impossible. It’s also true. A birth defect cannot defeat God.


9 posted on 04/19/2014 4:13:31 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

“He does - through the Church to which He gave authority.”

No where in Scripture is there a command, example or instructions for this function. It is made up out of whole cloth.

“The Apostles served as the certify body in the early Church.”

Great! List some miracles they certified as miracles.

“Peter, for instance, explains the gift of tongues (a miracle). That would show a recognition of the miracle as a miracle.”

Tongues are a spiritual gift and not a miracle. The instructions in scripture concern proper use of spiritual gifts.

“Peter walked down the street and as his shadow fell on people they were healed.”

“Miracle lite?”

The unverifiable part is that there is no way to prove or disprove this person had any connection. It is an opinion.

“Nope. Christ - working through Padre Pio - healed Gemma who was born blind because she was born without pupils.”

Still an opinion of how it happened.

Nor, of course is a miracle required for anyone to become a saint - other than the amazing miracle of exchanging His righteousness for our sinfulness.


20 posted on 04/19/2014 5:23:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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