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FEDS SEIZE FAMILY’S RANCH-Property owners fight government ‘land grab’!!!
Tea Party Tribune ^ | April 17, 2014 | TPT Admin

Posted on 04/19/2014 11:28:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

When Kit Laney answered a knock on his door Saturday, law enforcement officers from the U.S. Forest Service handed him a piece of paper announcing his Diamond Bar Ranch in southwest New Mexico would be shut down Wednesday and his 300 head of cattle grazing there would be removed – one way or the other.

Other Forest Service officials were busy nailing similar notices on fence posts along the highway and informing neighbors that after Feb. 11, they should not attempt to enter the Diamond Bar property.

Laney was not surprised. He knew someday there would be an on-the-ground confrontation to enforce a 1997 court ruling which says his cattle are trespassing on federal land. That day has arrived.

(Excerpt) Read more at teapartytribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: agenda21; blm; bundy; bundyranch; federalland; federallandgrab; feds; grazingrights; kitlaney; land; laneyranch; newmexico; nfs; nm; seize; trespasscattle; usforestservice
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To: 1rudeboy
So another shift of the subject?

Gee, I wonder, where in the world would the property rights reside when there is a treaty transferring government authority??? Oh my gosh, that is a real puzzler isn't it?

Where does the ownership reside when you register a vehicle under a new government authority? WOW! You pose such difficulty questions.

141 posted on 04/19/2014 2:53:39 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: 1rudeboy

No, your intellectual laziness is not appealing. Little about you is appealing.


142 posted on 04/19/2014 2:56:03 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Texas Fossil; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
These are not isolated events and there is a pattern of the Fed Gov pushing all Western Ranchers Possible off their land.

Stalin: he's not just for Russians anymore.

PING!

143 posted on 04/19/2014 2:56:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Detroit is the pendulum swinging back....urban people reclaiming the land that is cheap and turning it into urban farming etc....

Urban people aren't reclaiming anything....the residents of those neighborhoods are merely taking advantage of the vacant lots and trying to grow vegetables. They don't own it and eventually those lots will be bought out at city auction and contractually rebuilt.......

144 posted on 04/19/2014 2:57:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: null and void; Kartographer

BING!


145 posted on 04/19/2014 2:57:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: sport
I think the more common one is that he:
"is not paying /has not paid his taxes",

followed by:
he disagrees with "what the government has claimed as law/the law", generally in that order.

146 posted on 04/19/2014 2:59:20 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Texas Fossil
Let's see... Land, Land, see Snatch.

You see, it can be done! It CAN be done!!!

147 posted on 04/19/2014 2:59:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GilesB

You really need to breathe into a paper bag, or something. I didn’t bring-up the treaty so, by definition, I cannot be ‘shifting’ the subject by asking about it.


148 posted on 04/19/2014 2:59:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for that. There are no doubt differences between grazing laws that established the rights in the first place, but once established, the treaty protected them. Right?


149 posted on 04/19/2014 3:00:25 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Tammy8
Good interview with Ammon Bundy here, who explains what happened on April 9th, and then goes into the whole background of the fight for their property and water/grazing rights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reYHqsfF-j0 This interview took place on Thursday, before the standoff on April 12 and when they still only suspected cattle were being killed, but did not yet know for certain.

Unfortunately Alex Jones has to keep interrupting. If you find him annoying, just skip over his stuff and you won't miss much. But David Knight really did a great job out there at Bundy Ranch.

150 posted on 04/19/2014 3:03:22 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: 1rudeboy

You weren’t asking about the treaty - you were just asking to be obnoxious. If you had read what editor-surveyor wrote, it clearly explains it. But, anybody with a tiny bit of common sense would logically conclude the answer - which gives you license to ask, I suppose.


151 posted on 04/19/2014 3:04:39 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: ponygirl

This might interest you:
http://okanoganrlc.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/ken-ivory-explains-the-history-of-flpma-pilt-and-srs/


152 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:13 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: ponygirl

:) Thanks!


153 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:16 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Zeneta

Read Rand Paul’s comment at 105. Congress has tried to remedy the situation but Reid who is profiting from the land grab will not let the bill come to the floor


154 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:21 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: GilesB

Too bad you find legitimate questions to be “obnoxious.” I’d ask you to tell me what to believe, but I’d rather find an authority on the subject.


155 posted on 04/19/2014 3:08:23 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: editor-surveyor

Nevada is in exactly the same boat as New Mexico, Arizona, and California.

All private rights and interests that were in existence at the time that the treaty was signed are to be preserved.

There was no power to change any of these holdings permitted under the treaty.


This then comes down to the fundamental issue of “Sovereignty”.

That of the individual vs that of sovereignty being forced upon the individual by government.


156 posted on 04/19/2014 3:09:25 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Our constitution places treaties above all other commitments.

The rights protected by the treaty are supreme.


157 posted on 04/19/2014 3:12:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 1rudeboy

What does our constitution say about treaties?


158 posted on 04/19/2014 3:13:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 1rudeboy

You haven’t asked a “legitimate” question in this entire thread. Your first post was an ouright lie, evidenced by your subsequent posts.


159 posted on 04/19/2014 3:14:34 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

Maybe someone will chance along to prove it, if this thread goes long enough . . . .


160 posted on 04/19/2014 3:16:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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