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1 posted on 04/18/2014 3:13:07 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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I’d be a lot more impressed if this were a deployment of Norwegian, Belgian, Danish, Greek, Italian, Portugese, or Spanish NATO troops, instead of U.S. troops.

But, as usual, we have to carry the load, and the bill, because Europe spends on welfare, instead of defending itself.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 3:19:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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This is big news if true. I have my doubts the kenyan will put a substantial force of US boots on the ground in Poland.


3 posted on 04/18/2014 3:19:19 PM PDT by lodi90
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.. and the Ø fustercluck marches on, comrade !


4 posted on 04/18/2014 3:20:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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Never saw that one coming.


5 posted on 04/18/2014 3:21:10 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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WTF...We just pulled thousands of troops out of Europe in the last 20 years

This is ‘cause of the Ukraine, but it’s not our fight...

NO BLOOD FOR VODKA


7 posted on 04/18/2014 3:21:40 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Knowing Obama, as we all do, this will be a piddly deployment of a couple of light regiments, no armor, no Calvary.

And no ALLIES.

We'd be better off and dignified by sending none.

The man is making us a laughing stock.

8 posted on 04/18/2014 3:22:44 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The time to place NATO troops in Poland was shortly after Poland joined NATO. About 1999 when the US still had tanks and anti tank aircraft in Europe.

Now, the Russians will see this as a provocation.

9 posted on 04/18/2014 3:22:54 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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A weak leader sending troops to a hotspot usually turns out badly. Pray for our soldiers.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 3:33:10 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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I am torn about this. One side of me wants Europe to feel some pain for their socialism and spend more money on defense. The other side of me wants America to spend more money on defense and avoid socialism. The way RINOs stand up for things, I bet we get to pay for expanded socialism and a failed military expansion in eastern Europe. So maybe we should just let Europe fail and keep our assests intact.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 3:39:16 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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Let Europe take care of it. Why our guys?


23 posted on 04/18/2014 3:40:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Gee d’ya think we should left the frickin missle shield up obama ya firckin genius?


25 posted on 04/18/2014 3:47:06 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; ...

Active Duty ping.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 8:20:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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If even half of the below is true, the Ukrainians are correctly not depending on Kerry and Obama, and preparing for a long war, or, someone (the Poles?) have indicated support beyond what’s been publicly promised, and the U.S. knows it HAS to have a tripwire in Poland to deter Putin from retaliating that far west.

” April 19, News on situation in Ukraine.

There is imitation of some negotiation with Russians, in this way Ukraine buying time. Firsts days of war showed our army is like Russian army was in 1994 when they entered first Chechen war. They were losing tanks, selling each other arms and then all together drinking this money away... at first war looked like a joke but then it start getting very real.

Ukraine entering war and can’t match Russian with cruelty. For instance there was fight on the beach and Ukrainians stopped shooting to let some beach goers pass by. Today they announced that “anti-terrorist” operations in the east would be put on hold over Easter. Meanwhile mobilization is on the way, they dig 1000 kms ditch along the border with Russia to stop tanks. Bomb shelters prepared in big cities. We have lot of bomb shelters left from time of Cold War which now in terrible condition. What interesting is that in regions that border Russia newly appointed governors our billionaires. They pay ditch digging and war related projects. Regional elite forces on their budget, they also pay big money to people who will capture Russian terrorists and their arms. $10.000 for head+couple of thousand more for their machine gun.

It was smart move to let billionaire we call them oligarchs finance Ukraine defence programme. In this way they protect their capital. Voltaire said “The Aim Of All War Is Robbery” this is very true and rich people understand Russians not coming to protect Russian language... they coming to rob rich people out of their wealth and factories.

Another important news is that Ukraine cut off water to Crimea. How long can they live without water before they will move inland to take Kherson water channel by force? If no water in next couple of weeks then farming season in Crimea will be wasted. From very beginning it was clear that Crimea is suitcase without holder, no way to carry it... holder is in Kherson. They should occupy both or non.”

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/maydan/updateapril19.html

That last is very interesting because Kherson is not a Russian dominated area. If Ukraine keeps the water shut off, I assume it’s because they want to force Russia’s hand, and then have as much time to counter as possible, before cold weather returns.

Ukraine has arms factories - I wonder if any make anti-tank weapons?


42 posted on 04/18/2014 11:03:58 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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This deployment will have to be "paid for" so we are going to slash the troops and retired veterans pay and benefits some more........we can't cut something vital like Food Stamps or one of the 75 Federal "Job Training" programs.

Generals Say Troops Want Pay Cuts

Sgt. Maj. of the Marine Corps Barrett: Less pay raises discipline


53 posted on 04/19/2014 3:11:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Why us? Why not send in the Germans?


54 posted on 04/19/2014 4:18:48 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Thousands of Christians getting slaughtered in Africa... Obama could care less.

But if you beat up a few sodomites he imposes sanctions, and God forbid if your country votes to join Russia in overwelming numbers because you want nothing to do with the sodomite west! Then he will send in troops!


57 posted on 04/19/2014 6:02:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I hate the bastard as much as anyone, but what the hell is he supposed to do? He sends troops to Poland and we’re aghast. We don’t want that. He DOESN’T do anything militarily and we call him a sissy-boy who’s afraid of the Rooskies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3146298/posts


70 posted on 04/19/2014 11:38:29 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Give them weapons systems, training, night goggles. This is like a barroom brawl brewing from one guy jogging the other’s elbow and refusing to say ‘excuse me’. You have to find ways of deterring without escalating.


86 posted on 04/19/2014 4:20:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Note the first three quarters is an interesting discussion of recent news...

Who Will Russia Invade Next? Bible Prophecy has the Answer!
http://youtu.be/VEh4aCNE_Zw


102 posted on 04/21/2014 5:23:09 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Any air cover/assets?


103 posted on 04/22/2014 12:29:49 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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