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Wilson and Obama … 100 years apart, but so alike
The Washington Times ^ | 4/15/2014 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 04/16/2014 3:23:52 AM PDT by markomalley

When Woodrow Wilson signed into law the Revenue Act of 1913, it probably sounded like a good idea.

Most people would pay less in taxes and the prices of everyday goods would drop, he promised. And the rich would — finally! — start paying their fair share.

In those days, tax collection was a highly diffuse business with various states and localities collecting taxes at various rates. The federal government mostly skidded by on exorbitant and uneven tariffs, and on booze and tobacco taxes.

This was always tough and disorganized business for the federal government. Those hardships became especially acute for the federal government when it wanted to launch wars thousands of miles away on other continents.

And, anyway, who could question the motives of Woodrow Wilson?

He was a celebrated professor with a sterling Ivy League background who ran for president on the promise to govern sensibly and never go to war. He maintained a grand worldview and would later be awarded the Nobel Peace prize in the category of “world organizing” on his gallant promises to establish lasting peace to end World War I, which would become mankind’s last war.

What could possibly go wrong?

If Vice President Joseph R. Biden had been alive back then, he could have described Wilson as “articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man!”

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1 posted on 04/16/2014 3:23:52 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
When Woodrow Wilson signed into law the Revenue Act of 1913, it probably sounded like a good idea.

It was sold as a replacement for the hated protective tariff. Within a few years we had both the income tax and a protective tariff.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 3:30:00 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: markomalley

Was Wilson a muslim homo too?


3 posted on 04/16/2014 3:32:40 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Probably not but he was from New Jersey so that may say it all.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 3:35:08 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

I always thought he was from the South.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 3:45:07 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

I don’t know where he was born, but he’s always been affiliated with New Jersey because I think he was a Princeton University graduate.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 3:56:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SeeSharp

By 1920 tariffs represented 13% of revenue, by 1940 6% so your post is inaccurate. The income tax killed tariff revenue. Now we depend on ChiComs to make our crap.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 4:05:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley

“And the rich would — finally! — start paying their fair share.”

We often hear this phrase uttered by quasi-Marxists and hordes of the perpetually and chronically jealous, but what does it mean, really?

Somehow, because some individuals are economically successful, they’re expected to pay FAR MORE than everyone else.

What, precisely, are they receiving from the government which is supposedly in excess of everyone else?

Nothing.

In point of fact, those who are self-reliant and earn more on the basis of their efforts on behalf of themselves and their familioes, tend to take less from government and get less from government than anyone else.

And yet, we hear this phrase “fair share” as if it were written in stone that successful people somehow owed the government more than anyone else.

It is pure bunk, utter Marxism, Newspeak contrary to reality, and the product of nothing more than jealousy and covetousness of the property of others - some of the worst traits of a human race which can be very evil, indeed.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 4:10:46 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Alberta's Child; jospehm20

He was born in Staunton, Virginia.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 4:32:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: central_va
By 1920 tariffs represented 13% of revenue, by 1940 6%

Why select those two years? And what does it matter what percentage of the government's revenue comes from one tax or the other? I think you are missing my point. The income tax was enacted in 1913 and was sold as a replacement for the burden on ordinary Americans from the protective tariff. It was a lie. The tariff came back right after the income tax was enacted and we wound up with both taxes. In 1922 the dutiable tariff rate was 39%. By 1930 it was 59%.

10 posted on 04/16/2014 4:32:53 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I remember one of my teachers saying he was southern. I guess Va. fits that.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 4:39:23 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Yes, he was born in Virginia but spent his political life in NJ as governor and president of Princeton U.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 4:44:22 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: markomalley

Yeah but, wasn’t Wilson a U.S. citizen? Makes a big difference.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 4:45:35 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: SeeSharp
Why select those two years? And what does it matter what percentage of the government's revenue comes from one tax or the other? I think you are missing my point. The income tax was enacted in 1913 and was sold as a replacement for the burden on ordinary Americans from the protective tariff. It was a lie. The tariff came back right after the income tax was enacted and we wound up with both taxes. In 1922 the dutiable tariff rate was 39%. By 1930 it was 59%.

Here is the link, YOU ARE INCORRECT. Tariffs revenues were almost ZERO in the 1940's.

Click here history of tariffs

You stand corrected. The actual revenue collected is what is important. Back then WE MADE OUR OWN STUFF.

14 posted on 04/16/2014 4:51:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

In your analysis you always overlooks one important point that is central in America........ we the people don’t want tariff’s .

We like the efficiency that allow purchase of imported goods at a price below those produced domestically. We live in a global market and take advantage of buying what we please.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 4:56:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
Marx was for "Free Trade". You are for "Free Trade". Both political parties are for "Free Trade".

The biggest threat to America are myopic people like you. Losing our industrial base to save few pennies on the dollar has to go down as one of the stupidest things ever done. See we could survive the coming economic collapse if we still HAD an industrial base. We could actually win another world war. BUT FREE TRAITORS have off shored out prosperity and security.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 5:08:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Here is the link, YOU ARE INCORRECT. Tariffs revenues were almost ZERO in the 1940's.

You link doesn't support that claim. Where does it say we had a near zero tariff in 1940?. Under Roosevelt? Really? The US has never had a zero tariff rate.

Here is a link to the Smoot-Hawley Tariff wiki page. Check under the "Tariff levels" section. For the 1920's see Fordney–McCumber. The average dutiable rate was 59% under SMT.

And you are still missing the point. What does the average American care about the percentage of revenue the government gets from the tariff vs. the income tax? What Americans were promised was that costs to themselves would go down because the tax burden would be shifted to the wealthy. Instead, the average American saw no change in the tariff and got a new tax on top of it.

17 posted on 04/16/2014 5:09:19 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: central_va
Marx was for "Free Trade".

In what universe? Marx was for central economic planning - the exact opposite of free trade.

18 posted on 04/16/2014 5:12:22 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
Smoot Hawley was irrelevant to the great depression. Why? Because trade wa ONLY 5% of the economy back then. Even if Smoot Hawley stopped ALL TRADE it would have only had a marginal impact.

Look at my link, and look at the charts. Look at INCOME from tariffs not the rates. TRY TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND LEARN.

19 posted on 04/16/2014 5:12:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeeSharp
But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

-- Karl Marx

On the Question of Free Trade - Link

20 posted on 04/16/2014 5:15:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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