Posted on 04/14/2014 4:29:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Warning follows threat from Harry Reid that grazing dispute 'not over'
The chief of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association says his sources inside the federal government are warning that Washington’s weekend retreat in a dispute over grazing land in Nevada was just to distract and defuse – because a raid on the family’s ranch still is being strategized.
And there probably would be violence involved, said Richard Mack, the former sheriff of Grisham County, Ariz.
“I don’t think it would be possible” to launch a raid without violence, he told WND Monday. “I don’t the Bundys would lie down and be taken.”
He cited the threat from Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., that the confrontation was far from over, despite the weekend’s retreat by armed gunmen working for federal agencies.
Reid on Monday told KRNV-TV in Reno. “It’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I don’t think agent provocateur means what you think it means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
From Wiki: An agent provocateur (French for “inciting agent”) is an undercover agent who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act. An agent provocateur may be employed by the police or other entity to discredit or harm another group (e.g., peaceful protest or demonstration) by provoking them to commit an act - thus, undermining the protest or demonstration as whole.
Let’s see: I am trying to get people not to commit illegal or rash acts, nor am I falsely implicating anyone.
Bundy’s the one who is committing illegal acts, therefore aren’t the people on FR supporting him, enticing people to violence and other illegal/rash acts the actual agent provocateurs?
Mais oui.
I would...unless his face was on fire. Then I would piss all over him, except his face.
FMCDH(BITS)
Haven’t you lost this argument enough on FR. Go ping BroJoeK.
Harry Reid has an address. So do his wife, kids, and grand kids. Just sayin’.
You’re too kind to Lincoln—and to 1010RD, who began the John Brown detour by claiming that John Brown lost.
The Guadalupe Hildago treaty is on Bundy’s side.
Even if Bundy had no claim to the land, there is absolutely no possibility that the feds do. Any land in private possession at the time the treaty was signed can never be government land.
you might be right. I was trying to think of a more polite term than calling you a “troll”.
But, then again, maybe you are a very clever fellow!
Your posting seems to consist of mom, mama, or mother comments randomly attached to statements that appear witty to you and to have been borrowed other FReepers taglines. You need to either put those in quotes or footnote them otherwise it is plagiarism. If you don’t do any original thinking that’s the only fair way to give credit.
She’s a complete pussy and always looking for conservatives to lay down and take it from liberals. Never does she ever claim liberals should give an inch.
You dislike Christian sites, huh!
So if the most thoughtful poster on this thread is called that where does it leave the rest of the posters?
Not applicable at all because we have representation.
With respect, that representation is Harry Reid.
Fair point, but we need to change that at the ballot box. I can’t stand the man and I despise his corruption and politics, but I can’t go gun him down and neither can you. That would turn us into a banana republic (even though we resemble one more each day). We won’t win back our nation by getting rid of the leaders of the left (as much as I want to say it would be a good start). We will win back our nation by voting them into the minority and out of office. If we can’t do that, the nation as we recognize it is lost.
Again, I understand the sentiments and lack of trust, but the facts seem quite clear for this specific case - it’s property rights. If the government cannot control public lands, what chance do I have of controlling my pasture? I could get a monthly check just for allowing another neighbor to cut the hay off it, but I chose to let my neighbor graze his cattle on it in return for compensation (he sprays for weeds and I get beef). That is the law.
I don’t like imminent domain laws. I think it’s a recipe for anarchy even if they say it’s for the good of the public. Why do so many want to allow Bundy to do the same thing to profit only himself? Based on his own shaky arguments about his family owning the land long ago the American Indians would be wealthy beyond belief!
I was under the impression there aren't any more - he's the last one still running cattle at all in the area.
Reid is a natural alternative for epicac.
The EPA is getting ready to say all and I mean all water (such as off a roof and in a dog dish) in these United States is the Federal Governments. Now it hits home for all of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcWtukfUEQ8
Gary Franchi - Next News Reporting. Audio clip from Sheriff Mack at link.
Bundy offered to pay the state. You need to read up on this.
The state cannot accept money for lands it does not own. If it were up to me the public lands managed out of D.C. would be turned over to the states that contain those lands, but that is not what people vote for.
You can call me a troll. It doesn’t win the argument, but you can do it. It’s like being called a Pharisee on the Religion Forum or a Nazi at Democratic Underground. It means you’ve won and the other poster can’t stand to lose or be forced to think. I get it, but I just wouldn’t do it, at least not at this stage of the game. I’ve used it myself, I hate to admit, but it didn’t work.
Thank you Hildy. Your response was brilliant and far better than what I had hoped to say to make the same point.
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