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US seizing tax refunds of children over parents' debt?!
CNBC ^ | April 11, 2014 | Jake Novak

Posted on 04/11/2014 10:51:50 AM PDT by grundle

The government is now going through old records to see if it overpaid people on Social Security. If it thinks it did, it can now seize the IRS tax refund checks of the CHILDREN of those people it thinks it overpaid.

This isn't a proposal—it's already happening. For the past three years, the government has been confiscating hundreds of thousands of Americans' tax refunds, according to the Washington Post. It has already confiscated $1.9 billion in tax refunds this year alone.

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1 posted on 04/11/2014 10:51:50 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

I’m getting old; I remember when the rule of law would have prevented this.


2 posted on 04/11/2014 10:53:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: grundle

debtor prisons might comeback - maybe Dear Leader will haul off the entire extended family to the camps


3 posted on 04/11/2014 10:54:46 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grundle

Time to abolish the IRS.

*waves to the NSA guys*


4 posted on 04/11/2014 10:55:21 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Pollster1

rule of law

how quaint


5 posted on 04/11/2014 10:55:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Pollster1

How is this legal? Is it? I doubt it. They don’t enforce laws they don’t like and make up ones they do.


6 posted on 04/11/2014 10:56:06 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: grundle

“For the past three years, the government has been confiscating hundreds of thousands of American’s tax refunds”

There is a simple answer, never overpay your income taxes. Always make sure that you owe at the end of the year. Works good for Obamacare “fines” too. I am always amazed at people who “love” to get a “refund” from the IRS. Dumb $hits think that getting their own money back after having “loaned” it to the government interest-free is wonderful! And we wonder why we have these “elected turds” in the Congress. John Wayne said “life is tough, and it’s tougher if you’re stupid.” We sure do have a bunch of dummies living here now.


7 posted on 04/11/2014 10:59:21 AM PDT by vette6387
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Thanks grundle.

> This isn’t a proposal—it’s already happening. For the past three years, the government has been confiscating hundreds of thousands of Americans’ tax refunds, according to the Washington Post. It has already confiscated $1.9 billion in tax refunds this year alone.


8 posted on 04/11/2014 11:07:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: vette6387

I’m with you. I used to get a hefty refund every year. I revamped my withholding several years ago so I either owe a small sum or get a very small refund. There is no interest gained on a overpayment.


9 posted on 04/11/2014 11:08:55 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: grundle
The Feds will soon build that fence on the Mexican border,....

to keep American taxpayers in.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 11:10:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: grundle
Am going to tell on myself. At one point in my life for a number of years was a local government bureaucrat. I saw numerous situations where the rules would be made up. I saw people treated unfairly and this was at the local level. I even had one person (an upper level supervisor) tell me that each situation was different and the rules had to be made up in order to maintain control of the situation at the local level. Needless to say, I resigned soon afterwards but the long arm of government does continue to haunt those that do not toe their line(s) and that long arm of government will till the People become better educated in the methods of fighting back. Regrettably though, most people are uninformed and enjoy being uninformed. It is the new ... Don't Worry, Be Happy even while the people are normally robbed.
11 posted on 04/11/2014 11:11:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: grundle

Apparently this is due to some sneaky clause inserted into a farm bill back in 2008 (Pelosi was speaker of the house then).


12 posted on 04/11/2014 11:14:54 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: wattsgnu

They could declare that the estate value was overstated. Or that assets were hidden from Medicaid.


13 posted on 04/11/2014 11:16:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: grundle

Just make sure you don’t have a refund coming by under-withholding.


14 posted on 04/11/2014 11:17:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: AppyPappy

It is, at the federal, state and local levels, as you say Appy. The rules or laws are continually rewritten. Just when one thinks they have a handle on knowing the law one can be certain the rules or laws will change.


15 posted on 04/11/2014 11:19:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: grundle

Wow. They lifted the statute of limitations on money owed to the government. In a farm bill.


16 posted on 04/11/2014 11:33:06 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: SolidRedState

“There is no interest gained on a overpayment.”

And you remove some leverage from the Government.


17 posted on 04/11/2014 11:41:54 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: grundle
Representative democracy my aunt fanny, we have a full blown regulator run Crony Capitalist State.

And don't bother with that, "bullet box" noise, a nation of citizens would have resorted to the bullet box years ago.

18 posted on 04/11/2014 12:23:19 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Pollster1

They changed the law in the 2011 tax bill to eliminate the 10 year statute of limitations on collecting government debts. The Republicans in the House approved this.


19 posted on 04/11/2014 1:24:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They changed the law in the 2011 tax bill to eliminate the 10 year statute of limitations on collecting government debts.

I don't see how that would be relevant to collecting "government debts" from anyone other than the debtor. Once the estate is settled, the government should have no further claim on the heirs, and the government should never have a claim on the children if the parents are still alive (short of overt fraud in which the parents' assets are titled in the children's names).

20 posted on 04/11/2014 1:29:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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