Posted on 04/09/2014 12:45:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf
Twitter Hashtag #Donetsk has gotten busy in the last hour, especially after this Tweet from a UK blogger stating that the media was gathering, on rumor that the storming of the Donetsk Barricades was imminent.
UStream live feed from the Donetsk Barricades. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/artem77?utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=ustre.am%2F1b876&utm_medium=social&utm_content=20140409121554 Has been up for a while, but down the last 5 minutes.
Several recent tweets about "Blackwater mercenaries being seen around/in Donetsk.
Euromaidan PR tweets: "Rossiya 24 TV channel illegally broadcast by Donetsk administration captured by separatists."
Acting President Turchynov orders to take Donetsk RSA under state security
Numerous Twitter reports and Videos of Ukrainian troops, including heavy artillery and tanks, escorted by police, moving near Donetsk, at last report about 10k outside of the city. Local Civilians are impeding them by walking in the way, or having cars 'breakdown" on the roads.
I’m working on it. Meanwhile.
http://www.expatua.com/forum/index.php?topic=13316.msg94149#msg94149
Good info source:
www.expatua.com/forum
This will not end well—war by next week.
Heh - guests are limited to 5 page views / day, or in my case, it would seem, 2.
Interesting though in that it seems to confirm what I’ve heard from other sources: that even in Donetsk there are Russian speakers who want Russia to stay out.
It’s worth registering. The site provides a window into a situation that the media, flummoxed by the Russians, does not.
I’ve read that he used this kind of provocation to give him the excuse to attack Chechnya. Ukraine is bigger with a history of partisan warfare. Apparently it also produces a number of military product that Russia needs.
The current regime of thugs and neo-Nazis are in power because they rioted in the streets. DUH
Yeah, murder people you disagree with, that’s the way to go.
Question: You would have Tsarev beaten and then shot?
Question 2: What about the Neo-Nazi beating him?
I don't care for the Commies or the neo-Nazis in Ukraine (or for that thug Putin for that matter), but why would you (if this is the case) prefer one over the other?
Problem is, getting to a more humble Russia is like getting to a more humble Assad.
Getting to a more humble Assad would have meant helping very bad Syrian elements and terrorists. No way. We saw what that got us in Afghanistan in the long run. And 80% of Americans agree with me on Syria.
So, humbling Russia would mean quite possibly ending up helping Neo Nazi Svoboda and Pravy Sektor - very bad elements. Again, no way. Svoboda was ggiven 1/4 of the interim gov’t posts after the ouster of the former Ukrainian head.
Tell that to the Svobodanistas.
Svobodanistas?
We waited too long with Syria, too, and when it came time for Obama to get off his rear end, it was too late, and helping the Syrians then against Assad would probably have meant weaponry, perhaps many, would have inadvertently ended up in the hands of terrorists in Syria.
No. The fight (later televised on U.S. stations) that took place between gov’t officials was primarily between Commies and Neo-Nazis - all in gov’t positions.
So why do you and others persist in thinking that the U.S. has a dog in this hunt?
Jim Robinson, I, tcrlaf, little jeremiah and others here realize that we need to stay out of this.
Just because Obama was embarrased over Assad doesn’t mean that Putin must be humbled in Ukraine. Arming Syrian rebels when Obama was thinking about it (2 years too late) would be just as dumb as getting involved in Ukraine now. And we saw how getting involved in Afghanistan to humble the USSR came back, quite sadly and quite unfortunately, to bite us in later.
Who is your buddy Vatnik? LOL.
Dear God help this wretched planet.
It has had enough war...
I think a bunch of stupid repulsive KGB Putin crotch-sniffers somehow got lost and wandered in here.
>I think a bunch of stupid repulsive KGB Putin crotch-sniffers somehow got lost and wandered in here.
Ain’t seen any but the 1960’s cold war has been over for a while now. The Kiev tire burning crowd should be able to handle what they started.
What happened in Afghanistan (much simplified) is that long after the Russians were driven out, the legit Afghan gov’t had pretty much defeated the Taliban, was working to re-instill democracy, etc. Unfortunately, freakin’ Clinton was asleep at the wheel or busy with women under his desk, and did not do anything about Pakistan and others building it (the Taliban) back up. Pakistan even supplied many fighters to the Taliban, some right out of the Pakistani army...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war_in_Afghanistan_(1996%E2%80%932001)
(LONG article.)
“The current regime of thugs and neo-Nazis are in power because they rioted in the streets. DUH”
The majority of ethnic Ukrainians supported them. That’s why they won, and that’s why a majority of 328 elected members of the 450 seat parliament voted on February 22 to remove Yanukovych from power.
“Yeah, murder people you disagree with, that’s the way to go.”
I never said anything about murder. I have no problem with executing or imprisoning traitors. Why do you?
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