Posted on 04/06/2014 9:51:10 AM PDT by logi_cal869
A Royal navy ship has arrived in the southern Indian Ocean to verify signals Chinese officials believe could lead to missing flight MH370.
The three 'fleeting sounds' have been picked up in the multi-national search currently being conducted 1,000 miles off Australia's west coast.
At least one of those 'pings' is believed to have a similar frequency to that given off by a black box.
HMS Echo, one of Britain's most sophisticated hydrographic vessels, is racing against time to determine whether the sounds were signals from the plane's black box as the batteries powering the device are expected to run out in the next few days.
But first it will have to conduct an 'environmental search' to differentiate between the ocean's sounds and the potential finding.
Australia's HMS Ocean Shield is also in the vicinity, investigating a third sound detected nearby.
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“Then why did the first ones require a B-29?”
Because it was the first one and was over-engineered by about 1000% due to the VAST sums of money spent to develop the nuke.
Disagree on the wildly over-engineered. Father worked both at Los Alamos and Hanford (where I am today) and didn’t ever suggest that was the case. The implosion-type devices received only minor changes in the next few versions.
Australia now saying on live news conference that US towed pinger finder heard 2 hour signal of a signal.
I am not sure what I meant to type there ;) had a few dozen head injuries over the years ;)
No, it's not.
Check out the manufacturer's page. They call their product a beacon because that's what is. It doesn't receive and transmit back. It just transmits. Until its battery runs out.
It is the brainless drive-by media who have applied the misleading name "pinger" to it.
No distress calls were received. It seems highly unlikely that human beings were managing its contact with the sea. That of course, assumes Inmarsat's analysis is correct and it really did head for the Roaring Forties and not the 'stans.
On the other hand, if it flew to Waziristan and landed at Taliban International, wherever that is (hopefully the NRO knows), then why haven't we heard any ransom demands?
My theory is, it was hijacked, probably by one or both of the pilots. At some point not far in, somebody else realized what was going on and tried to intervene. There was a struggle which somehow resulted in depressurization, incapacitating good and bad guys alike. The plane was headed south at the time. And the autopilot flew it until it ran out of fuel. It replied to Inmarsat's pings until it didn't (the bad guys having forgotten to pull that particular breaker).
Maybe in the nest 24 hours they may pinpoint by triangulation where its at.
Range is what 3 miles? What about when pinger is nearly three miles down, you would have to be almost directly on top of it.
Its spec sheet doesn't actually quote a range.
What's for sure, however, is unless those black boxes are found, what really happened is going to remain a mystery.
Well, you could use the W87 as a benchmark.
Yield ~20 time Fat Man. Weight ~1/20th Fat Man. Twelve of them, independently targetable, fit on one Peacekeeper missile. Obviously, there were major improvements over the years!
If you want to go to the other extreme, there was Tsar Bomba, aka Big Ivan. It weighed 30 tons and yielded 58 megatons. Once, in 1961. Over Novaya Zemlya. The fireball was five miles wide. Biggest gadget ever.
A Boeing 777 Freighter has a revenue payload capacity of 112 tons.
Of course, if your plan is to ship a gadget to the infidels, a standard intermodal container would likely be a better choice. No missing PAX. No angry ChiComs. Just a big anonymous box, with a maximum gross weight sufficient to accommodate Tsar Bomba.
Anything still floating after that impact would be indistinguishable from all the other floating garbage.
HMS ECHO
Yes, it is.
I never wrote anything at all about the box signals.
Regardless, without respect to that (my comment...the ship), you’re absolutely right. Hope that helps.
You completely missed the joke apparently. I stopped being serious about this sideshow long ago...
There are three or four path shown. Actually there an infinite number of paths between those at the divergent extremes.
The path must be depicted as a fan rather than a line
now that is a full blown epic conspiracy theory.
It is so huge and detail filled that I believe it
a corollary would be that the flight did contain some really bad stuff and the escorts on board commandeered the flight and flew it to the least accessible point they could find, the South Indian Ocean.
Oh, boy...
The 'arcs' are not flight paths; I never stated that.
However, I did and have questioned the Inmarsat data analysis (they still never released the data)...
We got real good at nuke design. The first ones were very crude. The latest are rather small.
For the third time: He said “No matter how crude”.
I disagree. There would be a great debris field from any crash into the Indian Ocean. All of the crashes that I have heard about have had pieces from the plane and bodies floating on the surface. Air France Flight 447 is a case in point. There is a lot of things on a 777 that will float.
The reconnaissance satellites we have looking down at the Earth should have seen Flight 370 as it flew on its diverted course. These things do see things like license plate numbers. A big 777 should be no problem. It is very strange that not one word has been said about what these satellites did or did not see. That tells me they did see something and they don’t want to reveal what they saw. Perhaps a “combat landing” in Iran is something they want to keep quiet.
The reconnaissance satellites we have looking down at the Earth should have seen Flight 370 as it flew on its diverted course. These things do see things like license plate numbers. A big 777 should be no problem. It is very strange that not one word has been said about what these satellites did or did not see.
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This event occurred in the middle of the night. Perhaps it was cloudy..who know’s.
These satellites have radar, optical, infrared and ultraviolet capabilities which see through clouds and in darkness. They have to be able to quickly detect a missile launch day and night in all kinds of weather conditions.
If the pilots were incapacitated/dead and the airplane flew itself into the water more-or-less straight and level, you’re correct.
If the pilot(s) were in control and played “lawn dart”, the only parts likely to survive impact with the water in a recognizable configuration would be the main shafts of he engines. They’re made of very good steel. And they don’t float.
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