Posted on 04/05/2014 8:42:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
People might think it is wrong for me to condemn a report I havent read. But since the report condemns a program I ran, I think I have justification.
On Thursday, the Senate Intelligence Committee voted to declassify and release hundreds of pages of its report on U.S. terrorist interrogation practices. Certain senators have proclaimed how devastating the findings are, saying the CIAs program was unproductive, badly managed and misleadingly sold. Unlike the committees staff, I dont have to examine the program through a rearview mirror. I was responsible for administering it, and I know that it produced critical intelligence that helped decimate al-Qaeda and save American lives.
The committees staff members started with a conclusion in 2009 and have chased supportive evidence ever since. They never spoke to me or other top CIA leaders involved in the program, or let us see the report. Without reviewing it, I cannot offer a detailed rebuttal. But there are things the public should consider.
The first is context. The detention and interrogation program was not built in a vacuum. It was created in the months after Sept. 11, 2001, when nearly 3,000 men, women and children were murdered. It was constructed shortly after Richard Reid narrowly missed bringing down an airliner with explosives hidden in his shoes. It continued while U.S. intelligence learned that rogue Pakistani scientists had met with Osama bin Laden to discuss the possibility of creating crude nuclear devices.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Great read. Thanks!
Jose, if you authorized torture, you are a pig and have assisted in ruining this country.
As a JAG Officer, I cannot tell you how many times I taught in Geneva-Hague Convention classes that, despite how other heathens conduct themselves, Americans are better than that. Our eschewing of torture as required by the Conventions we are signatories to caused many prisoners of war to prefer to be captured and neutralized because they were assured of decent treatment. Once you betrayed our principles, there was no reason for anyone to cooperate with us.
Jose, you can go to hell and take your depraved “program” with you. You made every JAG Officer a liar and we hate that.
If it didn’t work, they wouldn’t use it. It’s a waste of everyone’s time...and time was likely of the essence in most/some cases.
shortsighted and wrong
The left’s opposition is a good example of the idiotic spin the left puts on everything it doesn’t like: rather than admit that it’s effective but argue that we shouldn’t use these interrogation techniques based on moral grounds, they adamantly argue that it’s ineffective, destroying their own credibility. They do exactly the same thing to discredit their positions on the environment and economics.
Proves just how deeply the country was damaged that so-called “conservatives” are defending torture, doesn’t it?
(Also, thanks for your service. Several of my law school classmates went JAG, and to a man, they are some of the best lawyers—and defenders of liberty—I know).
JAG was a great experience, taught trial technique, getting out of the office to go check it out yourself and taking responsibility.
Thank you for your comments.
have you been in combat ?
There comes a point where you can’t restrict yourself to “Marquis de Queensbury” rules.
I think every JAG officer should be required to attend Escape and Evasion School just like pilots and others with high risk of being POW’S. Then they might have a better understanding that water boarding is not torture. We have never had an enemy that in any way shape or form observed the Geneva convention and we on many occasions have violated it where war fighting required it. When it comes to rooting out terrorism we will need people like our CIA to defend ourselves.
I have no sympathy for these terrorist monsters who were not state actors and deserve no protection whatsoever. They need to be eradicated like roaches.
What’s your definition of torture?
no airplane made this hole
Tinfoil hat time.
Our eschewing of torture as required by the Conventions we are signatories to caused many prisoners of war...
I hate to break it to you, but those are not prisoners of war, they are not covered by the Geneva Convention, are not signatories to the Geneva Convention and they target innocent civilians. Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists.
Whatever it takes to get information to protect American lives, I am all for. Better that those scum get a tough dose of justice rather than see Americans (which I swore an oath to protect) die.
If you are truly a JAG officer, you are a disgrace to the uniform you wear. I'm assuming you took an oath when you became a commissioned officer, so why are you castigating those who would protect American lives?
Our eschewing of torture as required by the Conventions..and every one of these factions are signatories on the same Conventions? And they can/will be held for breaches of this Convention? If they are not legally required to wear uniforms, etc., etc., etc do you, JAG, plan to sue them or the psychotics they represent? Who are these overlords? Name who we are fighting? A religion? Who is the head of that so-called religion? If they cut off the head of one our soldiers who do we redress? Like in Iran where they hung bodies from a bridge. American civilians! Sheesh! Where was the lawsuit then, and who did it go to?
God Bless You. You see through this bulls—ite.
You waterboard a man, Khmer Rouge style, he will tell you everything he knows. Everything. Every time. Every man.
If he is first cautioned that any info he gives up, if found to be un true...will result in additional, punitive board time, he will only tell the truth.
100% of the time, without fail.
Which act were "torture"?
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