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To: yldstrk

Our eschewing of torture as required by the Conventions we are signatories to caused many prisoners of war...

I hate to break it to you, but those are not prisoners of war, they are not covered by the Geneva Convention, are not signatories to the Geneva Convention and they target innocent civilians. Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists.

Whatever it takes to get information to protect American lives, I am all for. Better that those scum get a tough dose of justice rather than see Americans (which I swore an oath to protect) die.

If you are truly a JAG officer, you are a disgrace to the uniform you wear. I'm assuming you took an oath when you became a commissioned officer, so why are you castigating those who would protect American lives?

16 posted on 04/05/2014 9:39:54 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: garybob

God Bless You. You see through this bulls—ite.


18 posted on 04/05/2014 9:49:23 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: garybob
"I hate to break it to you, but those are not prisoners of war, they are not covered by the Geneva Convention, are not signatories to the Geneva Convention and they target innocent civilians. Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists."

Exactly. As a former CIA OTS officer to the JAG officer: I understand the need to have boundaries for our troops - in general an effective war machine must be self-disciplined - but there is a place for limited and controlled application of hard interrogation (best done outside of the military structure). There is also a time and place for flat out torture although I would never make that legal because it needs to be rare.

27 posted on 04/05/2014 10:30:27 AM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: garybob
I hate to break it to you, but those are not prisoners of war, they are not covered by the Geneva Convention, are not signatories to the Geneva Convention and they target innocent civilians. Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists.

The US also signed and ratified the United Nations Convention against Torture, not just the Geneva Convention. This requires signatories to not allow torture of anyone in territory under their control. This gives illegal combatants protection as well. This is described as an absolute prohibition meaning that torture may not be used even in an emergency.

You can disagree with being a signatory to this treaty but the fact remains that we did sign it and we should honor our word.

40 posted on 04/05/2014 11:35:00 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: garybob

“Under the Laws of Land Warfare they can be shot on the spot as they are simply terrorists.

Whatever it takes to get information to protect American lives, I am all for. Better that those scum get a tough dose of justice rather than see Americans (which I swore an oath to protect) die.”

Thank you.

Is there any doubt terrorists want us dead? No! So we owe them no apologies for doing what we have to do.

As you said, “Whatever it takes...”


43 posted on 04/05/2014 11:41:34 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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