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To: C19fan

I’ve been trying to follow this thing. I can’t imagine why Russia would want to mess with Poland. There’s just so much easy pickings out there if they’re so inclined. Besides which, Poland is Catholic and not Russian speaking.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 6:58:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

They are not. They will pick off all of the non NATO countries first.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 7:00:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: grania

That’s just what Russians do.

Does the date “17 September 1939” ring any bells?


5 posted on 04/02/2014 7:05:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: grania

I think Poland has been invaded almost more than any other country because of the geography—it’s flat.


7 posted on 04/02/2014 7:10:34 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: grania
I’ve been trying to follow this thing. I can’t imagine why Russia would want to mess with Poland. There’s just so much easy pickings out there if they’re so inclined.

You are correct. Russia's next goal will be some kind of union with Belarus and perhaps Moldava. Belarus is just like the Ukraine, but even more "Russian."

9 posted on 04/02/2014 7:12:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: grania

Poland was historically controlled by Czarist Russia. Putin sees himself as the champion of the historic Russian Empire.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 7:16:57 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: grania
I’ve been trying to follow this thing. I can’t imagine why Russia would want to mess with Poland. There’s just so much easy pickings out there if they’re so inclined. Besides which, Poland is Catholic and not Russian speaking.

Poles commonly speak Russian, esp. if they're over 35. It was a required language course in government schools.

19 posted on 04/02/2014 8:01:04 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: grania

The fall of the soviet empire bagan at Gdansk. Gdansk is a very important shipping port for Europe and right next to the Russian sliver of Kalalingrad. A simple change of the map would give a spanking to Poland and what better way for Putin to humiliate the once fiercly pro USA ally then to take the city that spawned the Solidarity Movement? I am sure Polish intelligence is monitoring the city for arrival of Russian passports and Russian speaking arrivals. If Obama had his balls from Wookie’s purse he would stage some Naval drills in the region and have the US Navy move a few more warships to ports at Gdansk and Gdynia.


27 posted on 04/02/2014 9:09:05 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: grania
why? Because Poland and Moscow have been enemies since 1453.

After Kievan Rus was decimated by the Mongols, a large part came under the sway of Lithuania (once one of the largest countries in Europe) and then Poland from the 15th century. In the meanwhile Moscow was the tax collector for the Mongols and Muscowy became the successor state to the Mongol Empire.

Moscow has tried to crush Poland over the centuries and vice-versa. Poland conquered Moscow in 1610 and was instrumental in Napoleon's capture of Moscow in 1713.

There is a lot of bad blood between the two.

Poland was instrumental in the dismantling of the Tsarist regime and in the collapse of communism.

30 posted on 04/02/2014 9:57:58 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: grania

The fall of the soviet empire bagan at Gdansk. Gdansk is a very important shipping port for Europe and right next to the Russian sliver of Kalalingrad. A simple change of the map would give a spanking to Poland and what better way for Putin to humiliate the once fiercly pro USA ally then to take the city that spawned the Solidarity Movement? I am sure Polish intelligence is monitoring the city for arrival of Russian passports and Russian speaking arrivals. If Obama had his balls from Wookie’s purse he would stage some Naval drills in the region and have the US Navy move a few more warships to ports at Gdansk and Gdynia.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: grania
Russia also sees Poland as an obstacle to pan-Slavic unity. The Muscowites saw themselves as first gatherers of the Rus, then of all the Orthodox, then of all the Slavs.

Poland didn't agree with that

35 posted on 04/02/2014 12:06:55 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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