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NLRB ruling on Northwestern football players opens up more questions than answers
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Posted on 03/30/2014 10:08:42 PM PDT by chessplayer

And it’s not the stuff of revolution, despite the common-sense-defeating opinion this week from a regional director of the National Labor Relations Board named Peter Sung Ohr, who found that scholarship football players at Northwestern should be regarded as “employees” simply because their sport produces revenue and because football takes work. His 24-page decision that they should be allowed to unionize was a lot of senseless knee-jerkism.

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To: ken5050

Professional and/or collegiate athletes are/would be, IMO a NON-PRODUCTIVE society who offer absolutely “zero” (directly themselves) to our gross national product. they offer ONLY “entertainment”.

I do not support professional sports and will do likewise to college sports should they unionize.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 3:45:17 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: AdaGray
What's interesting is that most college sports don't generate enough revenue to pay for themselves, so the discussions about revenue, labor rules, etc. would only apply to football and basketball -- which, not coincidentally, are the two sports that have done the most to destroy the legitimacy of amateur student-athletes, anyway.

The NCAA is nothing but a huge racket when it comes to major college sports, so who really cares if it disappears?

22 posted on 03/31/2014 4:00:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: guyfromjrz

You made your choice. I was a D1 baseball player, and guess what, nobody complained about the time and work. You did what you had to do, or quit. We did not just play our games on Saturday afternoon. Our games were on all seven days. Sometimes we would leave campus for away games at 8 am, and return at 10 pm, on a weekday. Nobody cried. We were happy just to receive free spikes. Everybody knew the deal going in. If you did not like it, well the trades were available. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to play football in college instead of getting a job in construction.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 4:55:50 AM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

The focus is on the you or the me, but the action is on the hidden agenda of founding a new union.

Members be damned........ the organization is the key.

What must go is the communist NLRB that gets orders from the terrorist richard trumka


24 posted on 03/31/2014 4:59:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

These so-called union leaders are heading to DC to plead their case to Congress this week. What I hope Congress does is pull all federal money from any college that is engaged in big time college sports. If they have the scratch to give away a few hundred athletic scholarships, where the hell do the get the onions to ask the taxpayers for money. It is about time we join the rest of the world where school is for education, and outside sports clubs are for sports. If the NFL needs players, let them develop them themselves, and pay for it. Right now the sucker taxpayer is paying for the NFL’s stadiums and paying for the development of their players to boot, thru public money to their minor league (NCAA) teams.


25 posted on 03/31/2014 5:04:06 AM PDT by gusty
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To: chessplayer

it may be time to eliminate football on campuses where players try to organize.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 5:12:42 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: gusty

Have to agree. This bread and circuses stuff needs to go.


27 posted on 03/31/2014 5:13:48 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: cherry

and laundry money, as I recall.


28 posted on 03/31/2014 5:15:23 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: guyfromjrz

It’s a shame you never learned to spell the word “for.”


29 posted on 03/31/2014 5:23:51 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Ha, it is shame, gee how am I ever going to take my next breath of air because auto spell went with “fir”, rather than four, I mean fore, no I mean for. But, I think a person such as yourself , presumably, with your grandstanding of high aptitude and intelligence could infer the intended word was “for”.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it is a serviceable message that will get me through the day.

I am a priveldged dumb Jock, whom reached the rank of Staff Seargant in USMC within a four enlistment.

Thanks again, have a good one.


30 posted on 03/31/2014 8:35:38 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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To: guyfromjrz

No problem.

Most speakers of the language today do not try to use the word “whom.” So it is entirely OK for you to use “who” in all cases.

“Whom” should be reserved for those who know when to use it.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 8:51:53 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: chessplayer

Econimcs did. And your right, I entered college at the age of 22, after a 4 year enlistment in the USMC. I got to play a kids game under the guise of sponsored education.

A scholarship athlete had its perks, but it also has cons. Two days before game, your basically segregated from the entire student body. I loved having to fly out on Wednesday for a Thursday night game, come back Friday morning, and catching up with tutors all weekend while getting treatment from getting nailed by 300+ lb animals whom had zero ambitions on graduating.

It is a honor to get/be on scholarship, but what if I was on academic scholarship, didn’t need the athletic and felt my talents are monitorized by the NCAA, way beyond what kids game should be valued. Would I do it again the same exact way, yes. But, there is something just incrediblly disfunctionalable about the entire erangment. Playing D1 NCAA college footbal is a 10 month, 2,300 hour dedication, I was not permitted to have job. I did not have a car, because I had no income stream.

My attire was athletic department issued sweats/shirts/shorts. I needed a suit; I was forced to liquidate savings. Savings that I made by collecting scrap metal for a few weeks when I was at my mom and dad’s in the summer.

I had no idea the expections I had to fullfill for a scholarship.

And the stippen? 300 a month. I made a phone calls from Boston to exotic NJ; a 20 minute call was 10 dollars at the time. If I was aloud to work and some money above the meager threshold, I could deal with that.

Maybe get rid of scholarships and just pay the athletes whom generate millions per year at that institution.

Please excuse the typos, I’m using a smartphone with cracked screen.

Ultimately, no one forced to play, I did it under my freewill, but I did have to compromise a lifestyle.

I think the kids should get paid, especially the football and hoops programs from the TV revenue. My likeness is used with aggregious consent.

Its just my view and so understand the other side of the narrative.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 9:18:50 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I concur.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 9:22:27 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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To: saywhatagain

I understand your view; I can’t stand fostered victimization.
No one forced me to do it, and it was 120,000 to 150,000 dollar scholarship. My education of stats and economic benefited me, and led me on a career path.

But, academics is full-time task, couple that with a d1 football program, the university got revenue dollars on a nickel and I was forced I to a level of living just above poverty.
I had no idea the demand.


34 posted on 03/31/2014 9:33:31 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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To: SoothingDave

Thank you. I suck at grammer. Never applied myself. I do math and actuaries. It is half embarrassing some times, I think I’m gonna work on that. I need to become a better writer and communicator.

I don’t think I would have gained entrance to BC on academics, and I did need heavy tutorial g. I honestly had no business taking a seat from a more qualified student. I can admit that.

:)


35 posted on 03/31/2014 9:42:22 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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To: guyfromjrz

Question. If you are an employee of a University because of your sport, and thus you get paid for playing your sport, doesn’t that make you a professional in that sport? And if you are a professional in a sport, doesn’t the NCAA forbid you from playing that sport against amateurs? So if you form a union for playing sports, you give up your amateur status and can’t play that sport in college.


36 posted on 03/31/2014 9:43:38 AM PDT by mike70
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To: guyfromjrz

Sorry, I was being a little bit snotty.

Here is a legitimate tip: Use “who” where you would use “he” and “whom” where you would use “him.”

Or, like I said originally, just use “who” all the time like 95% of native English speakers.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 9:49:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: chessplayer
If you look at what the players are demanding it doesn't seem to me to be a big threat to tne NCAA. They want more study on the long term effects of concussions. They want guarantees of continued medical care after they leave school for injuries suffered during their football careers at the school. They want a piece of the action if their name and their likeness are being sold on souvenirs. And they want scholarships to continue till graduation if a player has a career-ending injury during a game or practice. They aren't demanding a salary. Considering they're the ones putting their bodies on the line so the schools can reap tons of money I don't think their demands are out of line.
38 posted on 03/31/2014 9:52:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

If you look at what the players are demanding it doesn’t seem to me to be a big threat to tne NCAA


The NW kids are leftist tools. Of course those pushing their buttons won’t lay out the entire agenda right now. They just want to get the collective bargaining camel nose in the tent right now. Later there will be demands for pro athlete style pay and perks.


39 posted on 03/31/2014 9:56:05 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: mike70

Great points. Instead of antiquated rules and regs, new solutions & destinations should established. Start from scratch.the whole thing.


40 posted on 03/31/2014 10:05:55 AM PDT by guyfromjrz (fresh breath, it speaks for itself.)
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