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Michigan lawmakers call for U.S. Constitution balanced budget amendment
WKZO ^ | March 27, 2014 | WKZO

Posted on 03/27/2014 5:24:11 PM PDT by mdittmar

LANSING (WKZO) -- Michigan is now the 23rd state to call for a constitutional convention for a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The state Senate on Wednesday passed a resolution to petition Congress for a convention of the states, following action earlier by the House. Eleven more states need to do so in order for the action to be taken on a national level. Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer dismissed the move as election year politics.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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We are only $17 trillion in debt,what's the rush?

It's not our money anyway,it's the Federal Governments.

1 posted on 03/27/2014 5:24:11 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 5:26:56 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Funny how these democrats get their panties in a twist any time someone suggests living within our means.

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3 posted on 03/27/2014 5:26:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mdittmar

Thanks, I heard this today on WAAM. This is big news....


4 posted on 03/27/2014 5:27:54 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: mdittmar

Good luck with that.

If there is ANYTHING a politician loves, it’s spending money. :)

They love it so much, they’re ignoring their own budget laws. :)


5 posted on 03/27/2014 5:28:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: taildragger

I think its funny they stripped a half million out of MSU funding.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138161/posts


6 posted on 03/27/2014 5:30:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mdittmar

The Democrat answer would be to raise taxes to cover the difference.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 5:35:24 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Publius

Gretchen Whitmer’s favorite word begins with the letter V. LOL


8 posted on 03/27/2014 5:37:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mdittmar; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Article V Convention has passed the Wisconsin Assembly and is before the Wis. State Senate right now. Wisconson Grandsons of Liberty (a Patriot group) is asking that we all call our State Senators PLUS Senator Glenn Grothman and ask that they vote for AJR81 and AB635 to stop runaway federal spending. They say that Grothman is the key to the process so we need to contact him, as well as out own Senator. 23 states have already passed this measure.

FReep mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...
Here is the explanation of the Wisconsin proposal:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We need your help, and no; we are NOT asking for money! We just need 5 minutes of your time.

You are all aware that the federal government's spending has gotten out-of-control. The debt ceiling is being raised every year. The creditworthiness of the US federal government has been downgraded for the first time in its history. Where will this end? We think you already know and what's more, that you also already know what impact it will have on you and on your family.

So what do we do about this mess? Well, electing "more constitutional" people to Congress has not solved the problem - there are unfortunately not enough of them in Congress and not enough time left to stop the coming fiscal train wreck. The federal government is NEVER going to limit itself; neither in terms of political power nor through exercising fiscal restraint.

So who can? The answer is the States have the power constitutionally to rein in the federal spending.

The Framers of our US Constitution included a mechanism in our Constitution that permits the States to go around Congress and the President - and it can be used to limit spending and reduce debt. It is the Article V Convention (AVC) process whereby the States can meet to PROPOSE, DEBATE and FORWARD to all the States for ratification a PROPOSED BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT (BBA). It is a little more complicated but that is the basic design of the Article V Convention process.

To date, 23 states (Michigan passed their AVC application last week and Tennessee passed theirs the week before that) have applied to Congress for an Article V Convention specifically to discuss a Balanced Budget Amendment. We need 34 states. Wisconsin has a bill, AJR81, which passed the Assembly in February but needs to pass the State Senate next week! We need your help.

We are asking you to take 5 minutes to call your State Senator and tell them to vote FOR AJR81 and AB635 - these are the bills that apply for the Article V Convention and set the rules for selecting Wisconsin delegates. Then call State Senator Glenn Grothman and ask that he vote FOR AJR81 and AB635 - he is the key to this process. Just 5 minutes of your time to take an important step to STOP the runaway federal spending that is bankrupting our nation.

If you are unsure about Article V Conventions or the Wisconsin bills or just want more details, go to our website, www.wisconsingrandsonsofliberty.com, where you can find our "Article V Convention FAQs" that will answer any question which you may have. And if there is a question that you have which we have not answered, email us and we will get you an answer!

Exercise your constitutional right to petition government and take a stand against out-of-control spending before it is too late. You can make a difference with a couple of phone calls - today!

Thank you in advance for your effort to save this nation from ruin!

-Wisconsin GrandSons of Liberty


10 posted on 03/27/2014 5:55:41 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Do you know why GOL are particularly asking us to contact Sen. Glenn Grothman?


11 posted on 03/27/2014 6:02:06 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (Is the GOP actually TRYING to lose in 2014 and 2016?)
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As mentioned in a related threads, please consider the following provisions to be included in a balanced budget amendment.

As evidenced by Justice John Marshall's official clarification of limits on Congress's power to lay taxes, the balanced budget amendment also needs a provision to hold the executive and judical branches responsible for making sure that Congress lays only those taxes which reasonably enable Congress to perform its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited power duties.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
In fact, note that President James Madison had vetoed a bill to build roads and canals because Congress had no Section 8 authority to regulate, tax and spend for such purposes.
Veto of federal public works bill

Also, as evidenced by less then successful attempts by patriot federal lawmakers to make rules for Congress to self-police its compliance with Section 8, the balance budget act also needs to require Congress to officially clarify in appropriations bills specific Section 8 clauses to justify any taxes.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 6:28:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I saw the Balanced Budget Amendment debated in the Senate Judiciary Committee years ago. (This is not the first time it has been considered.)

It was the Democrats who presented a uniform wall of opposition to the idea of a balanced budget and that ended it.

13 posted on 03/27/2014 6:30:56 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama came to ruin America. He is a new Damien.)
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To: Publius

unfortunately narrow subject matter for a COS coming out of Michigan


14 posted on 03/27/2014 6:33:32 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: cripplecreek

Dems=Taxes=Money=Votes=Dems

Dems=Debt=Money=Votes=Dems

Dems=Centralization=Control=Dems

Dems=FederalPower=Control=Dems


15 posted on 03/27/2014 6:50:46 PM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: mdittmar

Won’t work. Stupid idea. Congress will just come after more of our money to “balance the budget.”


16 posted on 03/27/2014 7:19:21 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

What will work?


17 posted on 03/27/2014 7:27:12 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

SFL


18 posted on 03/27/2014 7:56:20 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I do not. According to them, Grothman is “key” to the success of this Bill, and I suppose they think he’s on the fence.


19 posted on 03/27/2014 9:53:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Agree. While I support it, a BBA is more akin to attacking the symptom rather than the disease.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 12:50:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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