College Students Learn Common Core Math (video)

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[chessplayer]

College students and others at George Mason University were dumbstruck by the tedious nature of an elementary level Common Core problem during a short series of interviews conducted by Campus Reform last week. The problem, 32-12, was demonstrated to those on campus the traditional way and juxtaposed with the Common Core method.

[sneakers]

That’s fine if you have to give change, but if you just want to know what “32 minus 12” in, it’s hardly practical.

Are they training kids to grow up to become cashiers? Maybe preparing them for a career at Walmart or McDonalds?

[sgtyork]

I have a $10 and a $20 bill, so I give the person at the checkout counter $30

Why give $ 30 when you could give $ 20 ?

[InterceptPoint]

I think they’re trying to get the answer by adding up the difference between 12 and 32 in incremental steps. So the starting number is 12, and they add 3 to get 15. Then they add 5 to 15, to get 20. Then they add 10 to 20 to get 30. Then they add 2 to 30, to get 32, the ending number. Then they add all the individual results (3+5+10+2) to get 20. It seems very arbitrary.
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I agree that this is a stupid approach to teaching subtraction. But mentally, for simple problems it is the way I do subtraction in my head. Nobody taught me that and it is not at all useful for subtracting 145.266 from 376.22 for example. At least for me it isn’t.

It’s a cute trick for simple problems. Worth a couple of days of class time to supplement learning to subtract the old fashioned way when you don’t have a calculator/cellphone/iPad in your pocket.

[McBuff]

Ok, folks. . CC is very simple and it works. . .look. .say you go to the grocery store and purchase $32 in groceries:

12+3=15, 15+5=20, 20+10=30, 30+2=32. . so 3+5+10+2+Food Stamps = $32

[mware]

I teach at a middle school, where Common Core Math is being taught. Speaking with the Enrichment Teacher, she informed me that her top students are struggling with it. In her estimation they are breaking something that isn't broken.

That along with some other issues in our school have been enough for her to retire early losing her medical coverage.

[Think free or die]

"When you concentrate on conceptual mathematics to children who don't reflexively know the basics, you are wasting your time,"

And as a teacher of chemistry, I can tell you that trying to teach conceptual chemistry to children who haven't learned the basics of reading and math is also a waste of time. Many of our nation's youth are being promoted through our schools with devastatingly low academic and life skills.

The students who come to me from Asia on exchange programs run circles around our native-born students. They may have weak English, but their fundamental skills are solid, and their work ethic is strong. Our students aren't stupid, but they have weak fundamentals, and they choose to teach themselves the intricacies of non-stop communication on social media rather than academic subjects.

[PubliusMM]

Another argument in favor of homeschooling.

This is absolutely ridiculous. Math tables work. Repetition works. The basics by rote works. Build the foundation and the rest follows; at different rates for different students. But, it follows.
And now we have common core...another libtard trip down the rabbit hole, where up is down and in is out.

[GailA]

I’ve put together an ammo list for you, included this one in it. Go to your State’s Eagle Forum and sign up for their news letter, it will contain the latest news for CC at state level for you. Use it well FRiends.

I got out of HS just before they brought the first New Math on board. When my boys became school age math and reading were so different. I had to go back to scratch and use the old 50’s model of Dick and Jane and flash cards to teach them to read and do math at the lower levels, Hubby handled the higher levels.

My Husband is a Ret SCPO 20 yrs, besides his cruises, he taught A/B school Electronics and Computer Science. Lots of math needed. When he retired, he went to college to get his teaching degree. Taught 20 yrs Jr. College. ALL the Memphis City School kids that graduated with A/B’s in Math first had to take his REMEDIAL MATH course, their knowledge of math was that bad. He taught the same subjects in College as he did in the Navy. County school kids did not need the Remedial nor did his foreign students. Only MEMPHIS kids. Most schools are under threat of state take over.

Until they dropped their school charter in a bid to take over both city and county schools. They were already getting $3 out of ever $4 education dollars for the entire of Shelby CO. The “Tiny Towns” REBELLED and voted to form their own school districts, Memphis counter sued, went to the TN Legislature, up shot the Tiny Towns got to revote, and approve forming their own school districts. Instead of being under FAILING Memphis crooked politician rule, who want their people SHEEPLES.

Common Core is DAMAGING our children.

Hollywood Actress: Public Schools Are Brainwashing Kids With ‘Progressive Agenda’
http://blog.heritage.org/2014/03/02/hollywood-actress-public-schools-brainwashing-kids-progressive-agenda/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_term=headline&utm_content=140308&utm_campaign=saturday

“Of course school is the most political, because that’s where the progressive agenda is coming out the strongest and the hardest,” said Sorbo.

Sorbo said she was hesitant to reveal her faith or political beliefs publicly because of possible backlash and negative reaction from Hollywood.

But she could not remain silent on education.

“You people who send your kids to school, you have no idea what the schools are doing to their fresh little brains, in brainwashing them into this progressive, liberal—it’s antithetical to America, the agenda that they’re being indoctrinated with,” Sorbo said.

College Students Learn Common Core Math (video)
http://conservativevideos.com/2014/03/college-students-learn-common-core-math/

Bill Gates Tries to Fashion Teacher Support for His Beloved Common Core
http://deutsch29.wordpress.com/2014/03/14/bill-gates-tries-to-fashion-teacher-support-for-his-beloved-common-core/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

National Takeover of School Curriculum
http://www.eagleforum.org/publications/column/national-takeover-school-curriculum.html

8 reasons against Common Core
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/eight-problems-with-common-core-standards/2012/08/21/821b300a-e4e7-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_blog.html

Exposing Common Core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW2Xj6JrERc

An Outline of The Political Significance of the Common Core
http://www.markgarrison.net/archives/1198

Jeb Bush backs Common Core in TN visit
http://knoxblogs.com/humphreyhill/2014/03/19/jeb-bush-backs-common-core-tn-visit/#more-13351

What is the Problem with Common Core?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIrD1iJLjs

Stopping Common Core National Standards and Tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g384XeKPnqY

MLA Hates Common Core
http://www.academia.org/mla-hates-common-core/

Revolt against the testing tyrants
http://michellemalkin.com/2014/03/19/revolt-against-the-testing-tyrants/

this one has links in it.

Why Is Bill Gates Asked to Defend Common Core Math Standards?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/17/Why-Is-Non-Mathematician-Bill-Gates-Asked-To-Defend-The-Common-Core-Math-Standards

Jeb Bush backs Common Core in TN visit
http://knoxblogs.com/humphreyhill/2014/03/19/jeb-bush-backs-common-core-tn-visit/#more-13351

Revolt against the testing tyrants
http://michellemalkin.com/2014/03/19/revolt-against-the-testing-tyrants/

this one has links in it.

Why Is Bill Gates Asked to Defend Common Core Math Standards?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/17/Why-Is-Non-Mathematician-Bill-Gates-Asked-To-Defend-The-Common-Core-Math-Standards
This one is what our own state purposes to install.

TN Student Speaks Out About Common Core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PprP5TCZBRI

TN Common Core
http://www.tncore.org/

[Monitor]

30-12 = 18 So much simpler and faster

You are assuming this method of direct subtraction isn't also being taught.

[Monitor]

If the item costs $12, why would you give the clerk a $20 and a $10? Why not just give him the $20?

Ya got me. Ok, how about this. You go to the hardware store to buy a hammer, and it comes to $12.37. You hand the clerk a $20. The clerk begins counting out your change, out loud, right on the counter in front of you.

12.37 + 3 cents is 12.40.

12.40 + 10 cents is 12.50.

12.50 + 50 cents (two quarters) is 13.

13 + 2 is 15.

15 + 5 is 20.

I'm 50 years old. Before cell phones, before calculators, before wallets full of credit cards, before cash registers calculated change for the clerk, this is how change was made, right on the counter in front of the customer, who was doing the math right along with the clerk to make sure they got the correct change. This isn't new math, this is the way math was done for eons.

[Monitor]

The process you're describing was automatic for us before the advent of technology because we were drilled in fundamentals, and knew the addend or subtrahend of any two numbers since second grade, cold. When you concentrate on conceptual mathematics to children who don't reflexively know the basics, you are wasting your time, just as you have wasted your time with a contrived example.

If you have evidence that the fundamentals aren't also being taught, then provide it. Otherwise, your argument is based on an unsubstantiated assumption.

[Monitor]

If you give the teller a ten and a twenty for a twelve dollar item if are either having a very bad day or you are an idiot.

The original problem was 32 - 12. Forgive me for trying to come up with a more likely scenario by using 30 instead of 32.

[Monitor]

He’s an idiot.

I have a BS in Computer Science and Engineering. Meaning, I can design the hardware of a computer and then program it.

Try again.

[coloradan]

What if I give the teller $10 and a nickel for a bill that is $9.30? Why not just give $10?

[Monitor]

What common core is trying to do, and I’m assuming a positive intent when I say this, is to speed up the education process by skipping over more basic steps and hope the child will figure out those basic steps on their own.

I don't know what common core is trying to do. I have yet to actually see a common core workbook. My only exposure to it has been here, on FR, where it's taken out of context.

32 - 12 = 20. Yes, we all know this, and it's simple to do from memory. Then someone provides evidence of common core teaching another approach to solving the very same problem (which is kept simple on purpose), and my fellow FReepers immediately and irrationally jump to the unsubstantiated conclusion that the fundamentals have NOT already been taught in a previous chapter of the very same workbook.

If we want to put forth a logical and rational reason to reject the centralized control of common core, ignorantly knee-jerking into a two minute hate routine over a misunderstood math problem isn't the way to go about it.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Ya got me. Ok, how about this. You go to the hardware store to buy a hammer, and it comes to $12.37. You hand the clerk a $20. The clerk begins counting out your change, out loud, right on the counter in front of you."

I don't think the clerk would do it the way you suggested. I think he'd give you 63 cents and say "thirteen," count out two dollars - "fourteen, fifteen" - and a five, saying "twenty".

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I was lucky not to be of the Sesame Street generation. Because what is taught in Sesame Street never grows up beyond kindergarten, or maybe first grade level. Once children know the few basic things they teach, it is utterly useless to them.

Government directed education always teaches to the very lowest rung of student intellect. Not even to mediocre students, and certainly not to intelligent students. With government running things, students would have no more knowledge in sixth grade than they learned in second grade.

[Hoodat]

I go to the hardware store to buy something that is $12. I have a $10 and a $20 bill, so I give the person at the checkout counter $30.

Why would you give the person an extra $10? The $20 bill will cover it.

The bottom line is that the cashier will simply give out whatever change the register tells them to give, which brings me to the frustration I experience. People coming out of our education system today are being taught not to think. So when I go to the store to make a $18for the change, the cashier has already keyed into the register the $20 and hit 'total' which tells the cashier I am due $1.17 in change. I then say, "Hold on, I have change" as I hand the cashier 8¢. The cashier then stares at the 8¢ with a befuddled look. After a pause, the cashier takes the change in her hand, and then reaches into the register to retrieve a dollar bill, a dime, a nickel, and two more pennies. So instead of handing me back a dollar bill and a quarter, I get a handful of change and a cashier who has no idea why I handed him/her 8¢.

[Steve_Seattle]

I agree with you that Common Core math techniques will be grasped by the very bright, but that everyone else will struggle with it. However, many of the Common Core examples that you call “tin foil” stuff are taken verbatim from the teaching materials.

[CodeToad]

Common Core is a disturbing looking into the minds of Affirmative Action government employees.