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Obama's pronouncement this morning on a local TV station that we would never commit troops to defend Ukraine has had its effect, it seems.

Ukraine finally realized that the promises Clinton made to protect Ukraine if they gave up their weapons wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

What a great day for America, doncha think?

1 posted on 03/19/2014 7:01:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

The US is officially not a superpower


2 posted on 03/19/2014 7:03:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Ping


4 posted on 03/19/2014 7:05:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tcrlaf

Pooty Tooty likes these press clippings :-)


5 posted on 03/19/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: tcrlaf

Another headline for the same story.

Ukraine Surrenders to Russia, Plans to Pull Troops Out of Crimea
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/571436-ukraine-surrenders-to-russia-plans-to-pull-troops-out-of-crimea/


7 posted on 03/19/2014 7:05:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Those Ukrainian soldiers earned the respect of everyone including the Russians.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 7:09:01 PM PDT by allendale
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To: tcrlaf
Estonia is next.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-russia-estonia-idUSBREA2I1J620140319

11 posted on 03/19/2014 7:09:16 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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" . . . as Ukraine announced it planned to hold joint military exercises with the United States and great Britain" . .

That'll be the day . . .

17 posted on 03/19/2014 7:18:15 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: tcrlaf
Ukraine finally realized that the promises Clinton made to protect Ukraine if they gave up their weapons wasn't worth the paper it was printed on

Too bad they were missing their copy of the US Constitution.

The President cannot commit the States or the people to anything without 2/3 of the Senate to ratify a treaty. The Budapest "memorandum" was never presented to the Senate for ratification, so its bottom-line meaning is - nothing.

19 posted on 03/19/2014 7:19:12 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Girlene

Ping.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 7:22:40 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tcrlaf

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/who-and-what-is-vladimir-putin/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=who-and-what-is-vladimir-putin


21 posted on 03/19/2014 8:22:51 PM PDT by josef.roe2
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To: tcrlaf

One thing is clear - the Ukrainians are not Chechens.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 8:25:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: tcrlaf

Looks like Putin has marched into his Rhineland, next into his Austria, then his Czechoslovakia, and God help him if he thinks he’s going to go into Poland again. Clinton already gave us “peace in our time”, like Chamberlain did. That funny guy with the uniform and mustache said later; “He was such a nice fellow, that when he asked for my autograph, I gave it to him.” So many parallels here. Anyone who is elderly in the Ukraine is probably thinking, “these are not the same Americans that helped us in the early 30’s.” They would be 110% correct too.


25 posted on 03/19/2014 8:53:39 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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If Putin plans to rebuild the Russian Empire and make himself the new Czar, and tries to rebuild the Russian Empire with Orthodox Christian values and displace the Muslim invaders from the south, and godless atheist from the west, I wish him the best of luck, but if he wants to rebuild the atheist paradise, the Soviet Union, we’ll have to stop him.

So yeah, I’m a white Russian conservative, who doesn’t like Bolsheviks.


26 posted on 03/19/2014 8:54:15 PM PDT by josef.roe2
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To: tcrlaf

It’s just history repeating itself, as it does so often.

I can’t get upset about the Crimea. (Charge of the Light Brigade. Been going on since 1853.) Some regions of the world are just perennial hotspots.

No, we should not commit troops here. Or anywhere.

Good old George Washington: “Avoid foreign entanglements.”

No more Wounded Warriors. No more armless legless vets. No more young dads who can’t recognize their own children.

I am sick and tired of foreign wars.


28 posted on 03/19/2014 9:12:06 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: tcrlaf

We were never going to get involved in a war with Russia.

And Crimea is simply not a vital interest for us. The Ukrainians are in the same position Finland found itself in after it lost two wars to Russia. Like Finland, it will have to live without some of its territory.

But that beats being carved up by Russia.


33 posted on 03/19/2014 9:27:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tcrlaf

There have been reports of mass defections of Ukrainian troops in the East as well (especially Russian speakers and those who are Russian, as well as Communists). However, it appears that the Maidans are raising a National Guard and militia units to replace those who defected to Russia.


40 posted on 03/19/2014 10:01:53 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: tcrlaf

I am of the opinion that if the rest of Ukraine does not want to be annexed by Russia, they had better rapidly adopt the Swiss model of civil defense. This will of course require the rearming of the population - contrary to Obama’s disarmament program that he pushed on to the Ukraine.


51 posted on 03/20/2014 4:48:15 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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