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The utter collapse of human civilization will be ‘difficult to avoid,’ NASA funded study says
National Post ^ | 3/18/2014 | National Post

Posted on 03/19/2014 12:15:04 PM PDT by Dallas59

After running the numbers on a set of four equations representing human society, a team of NASA-funded mathematicians has come to the grim conclusion that the utter collapse of human civilization will be “difficult to avoid.”

The exact scenario may vary, but in the coming decades humanity is essentially doomed to some variant of “Elites” consuming too much, “resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society.”

That is, unless civilization is ready for one of two “major policy changes”: inequality must be “greatly reduced” or population growth must be “strictly controlled.”

The apocalyptic pronouncements, set to be published in an upcoming edition of Ecological Economics, come courtesy of a U.S. team led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharrei and funded in part by NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: liberalagenda; muslimoutreach; nasa; sharia; socialism; societalcollapse
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To: no-to-illegals

“NASA used to be the finest organization on the face of the Earth. They employed the finest minds, and they made steps where no human had ever gone.”

Back then they were an organization that hired the best and brightest, not the most diverse. In fact a very homogeneous org sent man to the moon and back largely using slide rules. These days the more “diverse” NASA, full of computers and supercomputers, has trouble not cratering their probes.


61 posted on 03/19/2014 1:22:05 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

You got it amigo. A hybrid of Malthusian bs and statist lunacy. A math model that has 1% consuming Gaias resources is as useful as Mann’s hockey stick.


62 posted on 03/19/2014 1:27:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Dallas59

No worries AGW will get us before the elites eat all the fish.


63 posted on 03/19/2014 1:29:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Dallas59

I find it interesting that these malthusian pronouncements come around so regularly, and seem to have the same “solutions” proposed time after time, even though the predictors of gloom and doom are consistently proved wrong. We were all supposed to be starving to death 20 years ago according to these geniuses.


64 posted on 03/19/2014 1:34:58 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Dallas59

But..but..but, they ran it on SimCity.


65 posted on 03/19/2014 1:38:04 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: PhilDragoo

Thank you Phil.


66 posted on 03/19/2014 1:49:02 PM PDT by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: Dallas59

Gasohol, so beloved of the environmental crowd, takes up so much of the US corn crop that it raises the price of all grains for food use.

Meanwhile, the rich environuts continue to harangue us about how much they “care” about the earth from their phones in their limos and private planes.


67 posted on 03/19/2014 1:52:36 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Dallas59
Boy, someone at al-NASAM is going to have egg* on their face when that killer asteroid (which a true Space Agency should be gearing up to try to detect) strikes the Earth and actually initiates the event…
68 posted on 03/19/2014 1:55:10 PM PDT by mikrofon (* Or would that be impact debris ??)
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To: Dallas59

Probably a NASA SBIR project...


69 posted on 03/19/2014 2:00:42 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: Dallas59

yes, take the scenes of violence at a black Friday sale or a new shoe release and multiply it by 1,000,000.


70 posted on 03/19/2014 2:42:42 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Dallas59; zot; SeraphimApprentice

Good to know that NASA has expanded out to social history forecasting. I guess it was to hard for them to actually be rocket scientists and build rockets and spaceships.


71 posted on 03/19/2014 3:07:46 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Dallas59

I read the draft of the report, which you can find by Googling. It reads no different than the book “Collapse” by Jared Diamond.


72 posted on 03/19/2014 3:21:20 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GreyFriar

Looks like NASA ran out of meaningful things to do.


73 posted on 03/19/2014 4:28:54 PM PDT by zot
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To: envisio

About the most ludicrous research conducted by an agency that was set up to explore space.

The administration gave a team the results of the study, including cataclysmic end of civilization unless the communist utopian society is adopted - and the team must have worked backward to come up with some nonsense statistical program and analysis that gave the intended result. An objective study would have found that a society providing opportunity and incentive for rewards from investment of time, energy, intelligence and work (capitalism) can produce immense success and lifting of all boats, particularly considering the ultimately philanthropic nature of a not insignificant percentage of the “wealthy.”

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.


74 posted on 03/19/2014 8:29:17 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: dhs12345

Granted the larger urban centers will be a mess for a while, but we have more than enough energy to run this country for as long as we have to if we use it. We still have enough manufacturing capability to get us over the hump, might have to live off of corn bread, rice and beans for a while but we can easily support ourselves if we completely isolate the rest of the world and let it go to hell in a handbasket.

I own a tool and die business, like the other tens of thousands of small businesses around the country we can do just about anything if we actually get off our collective asses and decide it needs to be done whether or not its politically or environmentally correct to do so.

We also have the great north of Canada to tap into if we need it as well.


75 posted on 03/20/2014 4:43:09 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Dallas59

And people wonder why we could never ever terminate a gubmint agency.

How many could find useful employment in private sector?


76 posted on 03/20/2014 5:08:05 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: LibertyOh

Yep that sounds exactly like global warming “science”::

2+2=4... dang.

1+3=4... dangit.

ok... Lets see...

2+3=5

AAAHAA. There you go! FIVE! See, we will all die unless you give me funding.


77 posted on 03/20/2014 5:52:12 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Abathar

You are a good person. The kind of American that will make the difference in a time of crisis. I work for a similar company and will do my part if needed.

Most people are completely dependent on technologies in all forms. They’ll be rioting if their iphone doesn’t work. Worse yet if they can’t feed their families.

My grandmother always kept a bag of dried beans in the basement. She lived through the Great Depression and “knew what it was like.” Thankfully she never needed to use them but she was prepared. And eating stale old beans from the basement pantry was better than not eating at all.

I argue that people were better prepared during the Great Depression because most lived in a very low technology world. And it was still VERY tough.

We have a lot farther to fall because most of us take all of the technology for granted and are not prepared mentally or physically for it. Most of us have not experienced not having shelter or enough food.

Certainly there will be an adjustment period with lots of starvation and death. It will probably require most of us to adapt to the lifestyles of our great grandparents — agrarian and farming. And that lifestyle is not capable of supporting and feeding millions of people.


78 posted on 03/20/2014 6:55:01 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Dallas59

The obvious solution is more taxes , bigger government, and taking away guns


79 posted on 03/20/2014 6:56:57 AM PDT by BRL
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To: BRL

When you have a free society, you leave other societies in the dust, and you become very successful. When you have a very successful society, it allows all to be wealthier, but allows the most productive to become far wealthier. When the most productive become far wealthier, the welfare leisure class has more time to rationalize their own resentments. When the welfare leisure class rationalize their own resentments, they empower a ruling class to exploit the most productive, bringing the advance of parasitic policy, and the downfall of society.

Do not have a free society.

Q.E.D.


80 posted on 03/20/2014 9:20:33 AM PDT by Faith.With.Reason
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