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Corsi: Obama Gun Grab Shifts into High Gear
Tea Party ^ | March 16, 2014 | Dr. Jerome Corsi

Posted on 03/16/2014 8:10:24 PM PDT by progunner

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To: Carry_Okie
LOL! I knew Hage had become a land rights folk hero of some sort. I do work for a living, so my brief google effort had not yet turned up this book. I am not at all surprised to find it, and even less surprised that in all my study of law I'd never run across it. I'm not saying it's good or bad. I've never read it. But after the Vande Pol article, I have no intention of taking it seriously on your say so.

As for your specious allegation of hyperbole, the "poison pill" comment comes directly from Vande Pol's own words, not mine:

"Frankly, I think such wishful thinking is a sort of vanity, where that “original meaning” is elevated to what they believe or wish it to have meant, when in fact that text might instead have been a deliberately-hidden poison pill (hence my comment re commas in the supremacy clause in Treaty Law: The Constitution's Original Trojan Horse, posted on this site)."
Such an accusation is tantamount to a charge of treason. If you think you can support such nonsense, have at it. I have better things to do with my time than subvert the Constitution on FR's bandwidth.

Have a good evening.

Peace,

SR

121 posted on 03/17/2014 10:42:50 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Such an accusation is tantamount to a charge of treason. If you think you can support such nonsense, have at it. I have better things to do with my time than subvert the Constitution on FR's bandwidth.

Then you're out on a limb here on FR. The reception to the first version of this article went for over 120 posts.

Such an accusation is tantamount to a charge of treason.

You continue to ignore what is posted to go on with your bogus claim. I said that it was a choice made under duress. There was a reason Franklin had minders posted to him for the entire convention. There was a reason the Federalists made sure Jefferson was out of the country. There was a reason Henry did not attend. As to whether it is radical to accuse Hamilton of perfidy, a Google search of "Alexander Hamilton" and "traitor" turns up 1.5 million pages.

122 posted on 03/17/2014 10:59:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: ForYourChildren
Question, do you think the federal government can be reformed?

Yes, I do.

If so, what would it take to reform it and roll it back, and to what would you roll it back to?

I believe nothing short of removing every elected, appointed, and hired government office holder, official, and worker, will be required to reform the U.S. government.

Every single person connected to the federal government, in any way, must be removed from 'service' to excise the rot that infects it. We would then need to set about refilling only those positions that are absolutely essential to the most basic functions of the government.

At the same time, you'd have to kick all of the lobbyists, academics, media trolls, money men, foundations, think tanks, consultants, advisors, bimbos, ex-politicos, crony capitalists, and assorted left-wing detritus off Capitol Hill, too.

Doing the above will open the door to honestly reforming our government, but how? A revolution at the ballot box isn't going to get it done, no matter how many Republicans we put in office. Screaming our heads off on the internet isn't going to get it done, no matter how many of us complain.

Only one thing can accomplish what I'm talking about, and that's real action. I mean, butts out of the chairs and into the streets. By the tens of millions. There doesn't have to be bloodshed or violence to accomplish this - just numbers. Overwhelming, unrelenting, overpowering numbers of determined Americans, all showing up and saying, "You're All Fired!"

What's needed is a force that is so huge, it cannot be resisted.

As far as where I'd "roll it back to", I'd say about the year 1900 ought to do it.

123 posted on 03/17/2014 11:23:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ForYourChildren
I most certainly will comment. FYI, but I have the feeling you do, to my knowledge all 50 states have already prepared petitions. Here in NC we have already exceeded the 25,000 signatures (required by the USC) necessary for the commie in the WH to read them. I also know for a fact that several (if not more) other states have accrued larger numbers. Although total succession is possible we will still need a federal government for obvious reasons. But we have everything in place already, all we need to do is fire a bunch of socialist commie idiots and replace them with someone who WILL defend the constitution. Thus!!!! the ballot box. If we get the numbers (the power IS in the numbers) we win without a shot being fired.

P.S. You do vote don't you????

124 posted on 03/17/2014 11:43:56 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: Windflier

Thank you for your response my friend, you’ve augmented everything I’ve tried to get across. Fine about page also. God bless us all and the greatest country on earth.


125 posted on 03/18/2014 12:02:13 AM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: wku man; Windflier; DuncanWaring; Marcella; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; Old Sarge; raybbr; ...

“...Anyone who thinks the government is going to “take their guns away”, needs to go ahead and sell ...”

Amen wku...

They can only “take” what people willingly “give” - or “give up” as it were.

People either comply - or they don’t. It’s a choice. There are consequences either way, but it is still a choice.


126 posted on 03/18/2014 5:49:49 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Logical me; ForYourChildren; Marcella; NFHale; Windflier; DuncanWaring; AllAmericanGirl44; ...
Adm. James Bond Stockdale, reflecting on his time checked-in at the Hanoi Hilton, said something we should all take to heart:
This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

127 posted on 03/18/2014 5:53:57 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Stockdale was good, decent, brave American Patriot.


128 posted on 03/18/2014 5:56:16 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: progunner

“You do vote don’t you????” Yes, I believe it is my duty to vote.


129 posted on 03/18/2014 9:22:15 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Pox

PDF copy here:

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/129/Media/Unintended_Consequences.pdf


130 posted on 03/18/2014 6:00:33 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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