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Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 12:50 a.m. EDT Thursday, March 13, 2014 | Andy Pasztor

Posted on 03/12/2014 10:17:35 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: Drago
Looks like both Rolls-Royce and Boeing monitor the ACARS signal--Boeing probably processes it for its subscribers--but the main point is that both Boeing and Rolls-Royce can supply authorities with this ACARS data from MA370.

Malaysian Airline System Bhd opted out of a Boeing Co service to collect real-time performance data from jets like Flight 370 for use in planning maintenance, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The carrier harvests the same information itself, said the person, who asked not to be identified because Flight 370 is under investigation.

Boeing pulls in that information to mine data and help airlines spot mechanical faults early, providing carriers another window on their operations.

“It’s like having a cell phone right next to your desk next to your landline,” Greenberg, who is now a Chicago-based consultant, said in a telephone interview.

Boeing taps the same computer data via satellite links for subscribers to its service.

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Rolls Royce, received two data reports from flight MH370 at its global engine health monitoring centre in Derby, UK, where it keeps real-time tabs on its engines in use. One was broadcast as MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport, the other during the 777's climb out towards Beijing.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25201-malaysian-plane-sent-out-engine-data-before-vanishing.html#.UyFH0dxaREw

121 posted on 03/13/2014 12:34:07 AM PDT by henbane
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To: Rennes Templar

Seems I remember correctly it was a slow leak and the passengers on Payne Stewart’s plane all went to sleep gradually.


122 posted on 03/13/2014 12:39:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cynwoody

the information would have been relayed to satellites.

it should have been recorded by multiple satellites, thereby revealing position by triangulation

why the RR info sent doesn’t carry along with it a timestamp and location is boggling to be. in this day and age, if you’re sending a live data stream ... where and when are key


123 posted on 03/13/2014 12:41:30 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Another possibility is that the RR system sent a report when the engines ran out of fuel in flight. That should generate data reports as the engines fail.

That would mean a crash wherever it ran out of fuel.


124 posted on 03/13/2014 12:42:59 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Drago; lonevoice

Thanks Drago for the link to the New Scientist article. Only two ACARS uploads without any further updates after the last confirmed position of the plane is consistent with all of the other *known* facts. No further updates also directly contradict this WSJ article assertion that the plane flew on for another few hours based on engine data from “two people familiar with the details” (a.k.a. anonymous sources). This WSJ “report” looks like very sloppy journalism.


125 posted on 03/13/2014 12:45:58 AM PDT by Synthesist
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To: ElkGroveDan

They caught glimpses of something. I am not sure if they know what they saw on radar.


126 posted on 03/13/2014 12:48:06 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: All

As search for MH370 continues, police take close look at Uighur passenger, crew

March 13, 2014 - UPDATED: March 13, 2014 12:51 pm

Snippet... An unnamed source had told the daily that Malaysian police and Interpol are focusing their attention on this man because of the skills he possessed

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/as-search-for-mh370-continues-police-take-close-look-at-uighur-passenger-cr


127 posted on 03/13/2014 12:56:33 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: blam

You mean like every sports team in the world?


128 posted on 03/13/2014 12:58:51 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: stlnative

So they have been looking at him while everyone else is looking in the ocean. lol One thing for sure whatever the out come, you can bet you heard it discussed here at sometime in the last few days.


129 posted on 03/13/2014 1:07:44 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: All

just trolling the headlines...

Malaysia hires witch doctor to find missing plane

(pix at link with caption...) Ibrahim Mat Zin (centre), a well-known bomoh or shaman, holds two coconuts as he performs a ritual to help find the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/china-mocks-malaysia-for-hiring-witch-doctor-to-find-missing-plane/1/349324.html


130 posted on 03/13/2014 1:13:38 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Synthesist
The article does not say the data was ACARS. The article doesn't mention ACARS. The WSJ reports the plane's engines sent information about airspeed and altitude for more than 4 hours AFTER the plane "disappeared."

The ACARS discussion was introduced by a Freeper, not the article. That does not necessarily indicated sloppy reporting. It seems clear that US inspectors are referring to something different.

131 posted on 03/13/2014 1:20:03 AM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: kristinn

Wow.

It really sounds like the plane was hijacked. That either it landed on land in some distant location or it was taken to deep water to bury it.


132 posted on 03/13/2014 1:25:48 AM PDT by DB
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To: Synthesist

While AHM data uses the ACARS system, it’s not the data dumps you’re referring to. They’re two different things using the same radio system. So, there really isn’t a conflict between the reporting of there being two aircraft data dumps, and the several hours of ongoing AHM data transmissions.


133 posted on 03/13/2014 1:53:29 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: blam

“I find it a little unusual that any company, large or small, would allow 20 of its employees to travel on the same plane.”

The NFL and MLB, plus countless others do it all the time.


134 posted on 03/13/2014 1:56:13 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Bronzewound; Drago; ArmstedFragg

I did NOT say that this WSJ “report” was based on ACARS data!!! And yes, the WSJ did NOT even bother to identify where their anonymous source for this engine data came from… which helps prove my point that this WSJ article IS sloppy journalism.

But, I did read the Marketwatch version of the WSJ article instead (thanks ElkGroveDan post #14):

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/missing-malaysia-jet-may-have-flown-on-for-hours-2014-03-13?link=MW_latest_news

And also read post #112 (thanks again Drago!)


135 posted on 03/13/2014 2:07:42 AM PDT by Synthesist
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To: Synthesist

Are we up now?


136 posted on 03/13/2014 10:23:27 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Evidently. Withdrawal symptoms noted.


137 posted on 03/13/2014 10:23:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: txhurl

Looks like! Whew!


138 posted on 03/13/2014 10:24:07 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Maybe this is a recording?


139 posted on 03/13/2014 10:25:02 AM PDT by abb
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To: Viennacon

” the transponder was switched off”

That doesn’t mean the RADAR did not see the airplane.


140 posted on 03/13/2014 10:27:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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