Posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:54 PM PST by PaulCruz2016
Sen. Rand Paul demolished his competition in the 2014 Washington Times/CPAC presidential preference straw poll on Saturday, winning 31 percent of the vote -- nearly three times the total of second-place Sen. Ted Cruz.
Mr. Cruz's 11 percent was still a big improvement for the freshman senator, who won just 4 percent in last year's straw poll. Neurosurgeon Ben Carson was third with 9 percent and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was fourth with 8 percent in results that signal growing discontent with the GOP establishment in Washington.
Indeed, CPAC voters now have an unfavorable view of Republicans in Congress, with 51 percent saying they disapprove of the job the GOP is doing on Capitol Hill. Just last year the GOP had a 54 percent approval rating, and in 2012 they held a 70 percent approval rating.
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“Together, they overwhelm the status quo. “
No one ever overwhelms the status quo. The status quo is there for a reason. Not reagan, not goldwater, not palin will overwhelm the status quo.
Even Obama has had trouble overwhelming the status quo and he is trying really hard to do that.
31%
That means that the other 69% were “split” between Rinos. When then get their liberal acts together, conservatives will once again be marginalized.
Those who fought in the Revolutionary War were fighting for political freedom from governmental tyranny not for "conservatism".
The Constitution is a political document designed to protect our God-given lives and freedom from governmental tyranny. It creates the rule of law instead of the rule of man in America. It is pointed not at the individual, but at government, delegating what government is allowed to do, the rest being up to the states and the people.
Our Founders in their wisdom deliberately kept our political framework separated from moral or spiritual or "conservative" issues. Although most were quite devout Christians, they knew that a healthy society thrives in an atmosphere free of politically forcing moral or spiritual ideologies on others as a rule of law.
So politically, our country is about one main thing: freedom from government tyranny, encroachment, and overreach. The political battle we are in now is about that one main thing: freedom from governmental tyranny. The Leftists love to see the Right tangled up in all these politically peripheral issues and have and will do everything they can to help divide the cause for freedom. So far they seem to be succeeding.
The moral and spiritual battle is another battle on another front. My guess is you and I (and many here and elsewhere) have very similar personal and spiritual values. But politics and government is not the CAUSE of moral and spiritual health, it is the effect. Our founders knew that which is why the Constitution is a political document not a moral or spiritual one. They knew the best they could do was give us a framework of political freedom which they could only hope would be perpetuated by individuals who chose "good manners and religion."
If/when you decide to tell me what you think "conservatism" is, I'm sure it will be about what you believe are the right morals and values for yourself and everyone else. Nothing wrong with that, I do the same thing. But that's a battle on a different front. Personally, I believe it will take God's sovereign hand of Providence once again (as it always has) to cause a mass change in the hearts and minds of the American People. But that is a battle on a different front and must be waged at the same time we wage war on the rogue and dangerous federal government. If we don't win the war for freedom, we'll have little choice about how the rest will go.
Never mind — wrong thread. Will repost on correct one.
If Rand Paul gets anywhere close to a contending % the Left (and probably many in the GOP) will not focus on the government threat and issue but on things like his foreign policy. If he manages to get through that, they'll probably be afraid of him as well.
Bottom line for me - I don't think Paul has the Palin/Reagan-like charisma and communication talent - he comes across more like an accountant and I'm not sure he really grabs people's attention. If you hate him, you probably don't have a lot to worry about.
You are one of those guys who just likes to hear himself speak and doesn’t really care what the point is.
Clarity escapes you. It does seem that you feel “hate” easily, so you assume others “hate”, and that you want to allow gays in the military, gay marriage in the military and for federal employees, and abortion on military bases, and want the left to decide all laws in regards to such issues and immigration, etc, things that you seem to want conservative politics to quit resisting or opposing.
In your world, someone can’t oppose gay marriage, and homosexuals for the military for logical reasons, but only as a hang up of Christianity, and that the Americans of 1790 would be telling us to let the left decide those issues by electing politicians who support them, while the rest of us ignore, ore don’t care, and only vote on money issues.
Romney can’t run, after he was nominated he reversed himself again on abortion and went back to his lifetime pro-abortion position and came out against the GOP pro-life platform.
To reverse himself again would be pretty hard, not to mention that he is still calling for homosexual scout leaders, something that he has pushed for 20 years, and again, after winning the nomination, made clear he still supported.
Which is totally irrelevant to the post you posted that to, or the the exchange being made.
Oh well.
What about you? Why don't we talk about you for a change. What is a "conservative" to you?
Actually it is meaningless, just look at the record.
Year Straw Poll Winner 1976 Ronald Reagan 1980 Ronald Reagan 1984 Ronald Reagan 1986 Jack Kemp 1987 Jack Kemp 1993 Jack Kemp 1995 Phil Gramm 1998 Steve Forbes 1999 Gary Bauer 2000 George W. Bush 2005 Rudy Giuliani 2006 George Allen 2007 Mitt Romney 2008 Mitt Romney 2009 Mitt Romney 2010 Ron Paul 2011 Ron Paul 2012 Mitt Romney 2013 Rand Paul 2014 Rand Paul
You have political positions.
It seems that you want to allow gays in the military, gay marriage in the military and for federal employees, and abortion on military bases, and want the left to decide all laws in regards to such issues and immigration, etc, things that you seem to want conservative politics to quit resisting or opposing.
In your world, someone can’t oppose gay marriage, and homosexuals for the military for logical reasons, but only as a hang up of Christianity, and that the Americans of 1790 would be telling us to let the left decide those issues by electing politicians who support them, while the rest of us ignore, ore don’t care, and only vote on money issues.
Bingo, give the man a prize. Yes, this is a political forum and this is a political subject.
It seems that you want to allow gays in the military, gay marriage in the military and for federal employees, and abortion on military bases, and want the left to decide all laws in regards to such issues and immigration, etc, things that you seem to want conservative politics to quit resisting or opposing. In your world, someone can’t oppose gay marriage, and homosexuals for the military for logical reasons, but only as a hang up of Christianity, and that the Americans of 1790 would be telling us to let the left decide those issues by electing politicians who support them, while the rest of us ignore, ore don’t care, and only vote on money issues.
As Reagan said to Carter, "There you go again." What kind of made-up, mindless, pre-recoreded fantasy world do you live in? I support none of those things.
But what about you, I keep saying. You don't want to put yourself out there do you? You don't want to tell what you think a "conservative" is. Maybe somebody will start taking pot shots at you.
Well, it's been nice but I don't really want to waste any of my time on this with you.
If you don’t support those political positions then quit trying to get conservatives to stop fighting them.
I intend to support a party platform and candidates and lawmakers who are conservative.
Regardless, freedom from governmental tyranny, as it was in 1776, is THE POLITICAL issue of the day and I've given sufficient reasons and evidence why.
Bye.
We see this all the time, rambling nonsense from those who oppose conservatism.
I oppose the federal government allowing abortion on military bases, recognizing gay marriage in the military, in federal employment and immigration, and homosexualizing the military.
I intend to support a party platform, and candidates, and lawmakers who are conservative.
Regardless of the fact that you want conservatives to lay back and enjoy it.
1976 Ronald Reagan 1980 Ronald Reagan 1984 Ronald Reagan 1986 Jack Kemp 1987 Jack Kemp 1993 Jack Kemp 1995 Phil Gramm 1998 Steve Forbes 1999 Gary Bauer 2000 George W. Bush 2005 Rudy Giuliani 2006 George Allen 2007 Mitt Romney 2008 Mitt Romney 2009 Mitt Romney 2010 Ron Paul 2011 Ron Paul 2012 Mitt Romney 2013 Rand Paul 2014 Rand Paul
You refuse to demonstrate what you stand for, only what you're against, and that is not very clearly stated with sound reasoning. Your type gives the Left lots of ammunition because you have nothing to offer - only what you're against and apparently you wait for some party somewhere to tell you what you're for, if anything. Sadness.
Bye again.
I prefer Cruz to Paul (ever since Paul came out in favor of amnesty for illegals), but as far as I’m concerned, I’ll be happy as long as Jeb Bush isn’t the 2016 GOP nominee. Christie will be a non-factor thanks to his recent scandals.
I’m not being vague at all, you are.
The tea party was not created to help you homosexualize the military and maintain gay marriage and abortion for federal employees.
“”I oppose the federal government allowing abortion on military bases, recognizing gay marriage in the military, in federal employment and immigration, and homosexualizing the military.
I intend to support a party platform, and candidates, and lawmakers who are conservative.””
Good, so do I. Next.
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