Posted on 03/07/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by Altura Ct.
Two participants in a panel on immigration at CPAC today expressed confidence in their closing statements that Hispanic immigrants will be a source of future votes for the Republican party. Latino voters are the Reagan Democrats of today, said Alfonso Aguilar, the executive director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles. I believe that the majority of them can actually be members of CPAC in the future, concurred the Reverend Luis Cortés Jr.
The panel was supposed to answer the question: Can there be meaningful immigration reform without citizenship?
Derrick Morgan, vice president of domestic policy at the Heritage Foundation, was the only one of four panelists to basically reject the premise of the question, saying that he wasnt the best person to say whether legalization should include a path to citizenship since he didnt think that Republicans should be pursuing a policy of comprehensive immigration reform at all right now: I respectfully disagree with the policy of legalization with or without citizenship, he said, instead favoring a piecemeal approach, beginning with enforcement. He noted that the current laws are not being enforced so why would you trust this current administration to implement a deal?
Aguilar vehemently disagreed: Conservatives need to address immigration, and they need to do it now, he said, adding that our conservative base wants us to lead and legislate on the issue. Alfonso said that in addition to immigrants doing the jobs that Americans dont want, immigration creates good-paying jobs for working-class Americans.
Reverend Cortés declared that immigration is the only policy matter where God agrees with God, by which he meant, he explained, that all religious communities supported immigration reform even the Bahai.
The reverend warned that the Hispanic community is becoming alienated by Republican rhetoric on the issue, much like African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights. The Hispanic community is about less government, it is afraid of big government, he added.
At one point, Reverend Cortés took issue with Morgans use of the word amnesty. If you look it up in the dictionary it means forgiveness at no cost, he said, and it would not apply if someone comes forward and has to do recompense as he said Republicans are proposing to require of immigrants currently here illegally.
The fourth panelist, Helen Krieble of the Krieble Foundation, advocated for a large guest-worker program, and pushed for her organizations Red Card solution.
There are millions of Hispanics, citizens and non-citizens, in this country legally. I support them and wish them well. It is the others, the illegal aliens who must not be granted any path to citizenship. There is a great divide between the two groups and we should do what we can do to encourage and help the legal Hispanic community - not the other.
I see no evidence of a cold front approaching Hell, and I do not see any swine growing wings and taking to the air, so I am inclined to believe the Pubbies will get their vote in the year 9595, if man is still alive.
There is a great divide between the two groups and we should do what we can do to encourage and help the legal Hispanic community - not the other.
Legal? Really? Do you mean support LaRaza? Or How about the ‘legal’ members of the the Hispanic Caucus? Perhaps the legal members of MEChA or maybe one of these. They are all legal.
Association of Hispanic Advertising Agencies (AHAA)
Association of Latino Professionals in Finance and Accounting (ALPFA)
Center for Multilingual Multicultural Research
Committee for Hispanic Children and Families (CHCF)
Concilio Hispano
Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute (CHCI)
Diversity Pipeline Alliance
El Centro de la Raza
Ethnic Majority
Farm Workers
Hispanic Agenda for Action
Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities (HACU)
Hispanic Association on Corporate Responsibility (HACR)
Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation
Hispanic Business Women’s Alliance
Hispanic Chamber of E-Commerce
Hispanic College Fund
Hispanic Council on International Relations
Hispanic CREO
Hispanic Genealogy Center
Hispanic Heritage Awards Foundation
Hispanic Outlook on Higher Education Magazine
Hispanic Scholarship Fund
Hispanic Society of America
Hispanics Across America
Hispanics in Philantropy
HOPE
Immigrant Worker Resources
Latin American Health Institute
Latino Issues Forum
Latinos for America
League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)
LLEGO
MANA. A National Latina Organization
Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
Mexican American Opportunity Foundation
National Alliance for Hispanic Health
National Association for Bilingual Education
National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO)
National Conference of Puerto Rican Women (NACOPRW)
National Council of La Raza (NCLR)
National Hispanic Agenda Summit
National Hispanic Corporate Council (NHCC)
National Hispanic Council on Aging (NHCoA)
National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts
National Hispanic Medical Association (NHMA)
National Latino Children’s Institute (NLCI)
National Latino Peace Officers Association
National Latino Research Center
National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (NNIRR)
National Society for Hispanic Professionals (NSHP)
New American Alliance
New Democrat Network Hispanic Project
Nosotros
Reforma
Republican National Hispanic Assembly
Salvadoran American Leadership and Educational Fund (SALEF)
Scholarships for Hispanics
Self Reliance Foundation
SER-Jobs for Progress National, Inc.
Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers (SHPE)
Southwest Voter Registration Education Project (SVREP)
¡Soy Unica! ¡Soy Latina!
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute
The Democratic Party - Hispanic Vote
The Lagrant Foundation
The Latino Coalition
The Tomas Rivera Policy Institute
U.S. Govt. Information in Spanish
United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (USHCC)
United States-Mexico Chamber of Commerce (USMCOC)
USHCC Foundation
Are Hispanics that socially conservative?
I often hear in the media that Hispanics are socially conservative. For that sort of thing you do need quick & dirty rules-of-thumb, and the assertion seems broadly plausible. On the other hand, the Hispanic attitude toward gay marriage isnt really that different from non-Hispanic white (see GSS MARHOMO variable). So I decided to query non-Hispanic white and Hispanic attitudes to a range of hot-button social issues in the GSS. I also broke it down by college vs. non-college educated cohorts. All results are from the year 2000 and later.
White non-Hispanic | Hispanic | |||
No college | College | No college | College | |
Abortion on demand, yes | 38 | 53 | 28 | 47 |
Abortion if serious defect, yes | 75 | 70 | 67 | 79 |
Make divorce easier | 23 | 16 | 44 | 28 |
Keep divorce laws same | 23 | 34 | 17 | 40 |
Make divorce more difficult | 55 | 50 | 38 | 32 |
Premarital sex always wrong | 26 | 19 | 21 | 16 |
Premarital sex almost always wrong | 8 | 8 | 10 | 7 |
Premarital sex sometimes wrong | 18 | 23 | 20 | 13 |
Premarital sex not wrong at all | 47 | 50 | 49 | 64 |
Homosexual sex always wrong | 58 | 35 | 61 | 33 |
Homosexual sex almost always wrong | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 |
Homosexual sex sometimes wrong | 6 | 11 | 7 | 9 |
Homosexual sex not wrong at all | 32 | 48 | 27 | 55 |
Porn should be illegal to all | 40 | 30 | 36 | 25 |
Porn should be illegal to under 18 | 57 | 67 | 60 | 70 |
Porn should be legal to all | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 |
Strongly favor spanking children | 28 | 17 | 25 | 19 |
Favor spanking children | 47 | 44 | 44 | 43 |
Do not favor spanking children | 19 | 28 | 22 | 20 |
Strongly do not favor spanking children | 6 | 11 | 9 | 17 |
Allow incurable patients to die | 72 | 72 | 58 | 76 |
Strongly agree better for man to work, woman to tend home | 10 | 5 | 14 | 9 |
Agree better for man to work, woman to tend home | 31 | 19 | 32 | 16 |
Disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home | 43 | 49 | 43 | 48 |
Strongly disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home | 16 | 28 | 11 | 27 |
These results can be used to support the proposition that Hispanics are socially conservative. But they are not of the magnitude or direction of difference that one finds when comparing evangelical white Protestants to other whites, or even blacks to whites. So though technically defensible, I think the assertion that Hispanics are socially conservative in their attitudes misleads the public somewhat.
(unless the divorce results are mis-coded, they do seem correct)
Despite the fact that 70% of Hispanics vote Rat. Legalizing 11-20 million more of them is a recipe for permanent minorities for decades.
The out of wedlock birth rate for Hispanics is 53%. What’s conservative about that?
It makes a huge difference which Latino voters one talks about. Latino voters themselves will tell you that there are huge differences among them.
Democrats are trying to roll them all into a single voting block that will vote Democrat. We can't let that happen.
There has to be some precision in separating Latinos that have come to America, are assimilating, and have embraced the American way, and those Latinos that came here for free stuff.
It comes down to which wave they came in on.
Reagan was an inspiration. Immigrants can be inspired by a great leader of their new country just as much as the native people. Those that came in under Reagan are Reagan Latinos. And they do vote Republican.
The next wave came in under Clinton/Bush. What was their inspiration? New Latinos have been cultured into a very different world -- an uninspiring world.
That same thing has happened to millennials. Worse, they're cynical. They don't start families. They're unemployed.
If we can find someone that can inspire millennials, we'll have no trouble inspiring new immigrants. Amnesty wouldn't be a huge problem with such a leader.
But where is that leader today?
The reverend warned that the Hispanic community is becoming alienated by Republican rhetoric on the issue, much like African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights. The Hispanic community is about less government, it is afraid of big government, he added.”
Sorry Reverend you are delusional. Republicans helped pass civil rights legislation in the early sixties. Hispanic immigrants are overwhelmingly dependent on government assistance.
I think if we sit down with Hispanics, I think you’ll see that they are conservative. That said, I think illegals should be sent back and pay fines and then ask to be an American citizen.
I am an in my eighties and have lived in worked in several locations around the US and some outside the US. In my lifetime I have known quite a few Hispanics. Some were professionals - engineers and medical doctors - some worked in factories, usually as supervisors. And most of them Cuban or the Dominican Republic. They were all patriotic, some were veterans, and conservative. Am I supposed to equate them to the ones being described on this post?
I am in my 70s. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born in this country; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. We have gone from 9.7 million foreign born in 1970 to 45 million today.
Here is a breakdown of the educational levels of immigrants, legal and illegal, compared to the native born. Our immigration policies are importing poverty thru mostly unskilled and uneducated immigrants.
About one quarter of our immigrants come from Mexico. 34.5 percent of Mexican immigrants in 2010 indicated in the survey that they arrived in 2000 or later. For immigrants from countries such as India, Guatemala, Honduras, and Brazil, roughly half arrived during the last decade. In contrast, for countries like Canada and Vietnam, few are recent arrivals.
The demographics of this country are rapidly changing fueled by immigration and minority birthrates. We bring in 1.2 million permanent legal immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as classified by the USG. We will be a majority-minority country for the first time in our history by 2043. Half of the children 18 and under will be minorities by 2019. The children of immigrants account for one-third of all children in poverty.
There are 10.4 million students from immigrant households in public schools, accounting for one in five public school students. Of these students, 78 percent speak a language other than English at home. Overall, one in four public school students now speaks a language other than English at home.
Are blacks conservative?
Amnesty is not the main problem. Our legal immigration policies are far more destructive.
And people still wonder why some of us hate that party!
Supporting any form of amnesty will lose more votes than it will gain.
Maybe they have disagreements on some issues, but most people I talk to are fiscal conservatives and most are social conservatives, too.
That's true and we have the same thing here with Miami Cubans but the problem is there are fewer of these guys every year as the huge illegal population overwhelms all else. It may be too late to hope for change.
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