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Do you get the feeling that our media is not giving us the whole story on what is happening over there?
1 posted on 03/06/2014 6:48:33 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Well they told us the Pope embraced civil unions for homos and that the Muslim Brotherhood was moderate... seems legit.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 6:49:27 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: artichokegrower

Sky News (UK) does pretty well.


3 posted on 03/06/2014 6:50:03 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: GeronL; KC_Lion; TigersEye; nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 6:50:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: artichokegrower

Bingo.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 6:51:26 PM PST by Fungi
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To: artichokegrower

Uh.

WOW.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 6:51:57 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: artichokegrower

Demolition team could split it with high explosives but a big mess and not quick to get it cleaned up.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 6:55:29 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: artichokegrower

Damn, global warming must have done the sinking.

On 2nd thought, probably not or the mainstream media would have told us about this.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 6:58:12 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: SevenofNine; caww

ping.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 7:00:01 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: artichokegrower

The ship they sunk in the channel was the Ochakov. a Kara-Class late-60’s-era cruiser, that was already heading for the scrapper’s torch.

Laid up for 27 years, since 1987. Was to be rebuilt in the 90’s, but caught fire in the yard, heavily damaging it. Finally was written off and decommissioned in 2011.


13 posted on 03/06/2014 7:01:32 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: artichokegrower

seeing they could do a blockade with ships they didn’t have to sink, i don’t quite believe this bs.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 7:05:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: artichokegrower

Putin, the new rise of Hitler.


20 posted on 03/06/2014 7:13:05 PM PST by Logical me
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To: artichokegrower

Or....Ukranians sank it.


22 posted on 03/06/2014 7:16:08 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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23 posted on 03/06/2014 7:18:01 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: artichokegrower

Specs, etc., for the Ochakov:

http://flot.sevastopol.info/eng/ship/largeaswdestroyers/ochakov.htm

569 ft. long - not exactly a rowboat.

I wonder if the Ukrainians were going to try to break out and the Russkies got wind of it.

Can’t wait for Putin’s explanation...

Does this qualify as an act of war?


25 posted on 03/06/2014 7:23:40 PM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: artichokegrower

Most misleading headline, ever.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 7:31:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: artichokegrower

All news media is trash today.

Amateurish: little background on subject, few true subject matter experts, pressure to report quickly (little fact checking)

Biased: ideologically bent by journalists and editors. Feeding their demographic or psycho graphic target audience. CNN goes so far that stories will often vary substantially depending where one is watching because they cater to their market.

No consequences to journalists in reality (libel/slander) and no real professional licensing/credentialing. So there is little concern in consequences for getting it wrong or purposefully doing wrong.

Influenced by political forces (be nice/play along and you’ll get access)

Influenced by money from sponsors.

Restricted because of safety, insurance...

Lazy and willing to often “go along” when being spoon fed.

What sells: pictures, video, conflict, sex, violence, celebrity stories are preferred, and real news is often overlooked because it’s just not “sensational” enough. Even the morning weather has to be made into a sensational story with some sort of conflict.

The story has to be kept short, and what we call in depth is a 3 minute story that is really a superficial gloss over. The story also has to be dumbed down so someone with little knowledge can comprehend what is being discussed: oversimplification.

What we call news is trash. Editorialized trash (journalism vs. reporting) where an entire story could be condensed to a mere paragraph in factual information, the rest simply being opinions, extrapolations, and the discussion of feelings. Repetitive crap by pretty people that are demographically diverse and can talk quickly.

The news has become near pure entertainment, from which little actionable information is gained by the viewer. The viewer watches or listens for affirmation, not to actually receive information upon which decisions can be made. The news is basically operating in the realm of “feelings.”

But there is an upside to our news media. At least most Americans can find the Ukraine on a political map today, because they surely didn’t learn this in their high quality public education.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 7:43:42 PM PST by Red6
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To: artichokegrower
What would happen if somebody sank a ship in the Bosporus?
32 posted on 03/06/2014 7:57:01 PM PST by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: artichokegrower

Yep!


35 posted on 03/06/2014 8:15:35 PM PST by sport
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To: artichokegrower

This article gives a better perspective (through pictures and article) of the Ochakov.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/russia-sinks-ship-to-block-ukrainian-navy-entry-to-black-sea-20140307-hvghs.html


39 posted on 03/06/2014 8:51:39 PM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: artichokegrower

does this prevent NATO assets from entering the black sea?


40 posted on 03/06/2014 9:27:00 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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