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So much for the fall back line of religious liberty exemptions. Over/under when revoking tax exempt status of churches etc that refuse to do same sex marriages is a credible policy position. Remember Bob Jones Univ lost its tax exempt status because of its anti-interracial dating policy.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 9:15:59 AM PST by C19fan
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Where, specifically, does the Constitution talk about marriage or homosexual marriage?

The American Idol society speaks (asuming this isn’t bogus push poll, which is a big if).


2 posted on 03/05/2014 9:19:25 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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What is this “equal protection” in the Constitution, and what does “protecting” have to do with LETTING someone marry?

After all, marriage cannot be a right if it requires at least 2 parties to agree to it. No-one has a “right” to marry. Only an opportunity.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 9:19:27 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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A several year PR campaign on TV and in the media could now convince most Americans that gravity doesn’t exist, or that the moon is made of cheese. I find most Americans don’t believe “anything” any longer. It has been that easy for the homosexual-lobby to change minds.

And some conservatives believe this nation is favored by God????


4 posted on 03/05/2014 9:20:01 AM PST by PGR88
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Tell a lie often enough and .... we know where that goes.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 9:25:45 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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It does not matter what idiots in America think of the Constitution or of GOD’s word... their opinions do not change the UNCHANGING.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 9:32:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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What do you expect. 60% of Americans have never read the document, and are largely morons.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 9:38:24 AM PST by Viennacon
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Well, if this is TRUE.. then what about the RIGHTS of pedophiles? /s


9 posted on 03/05/2014 9:41:04 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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This is the logical result of the 1965 Civil Rights Act, which is why so many conservatives opposed it. America lost ‘freedom of association’ almost 50 years ago.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 9:43:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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Regarding the so-called constitutionality of gay marriage, please consider the following. Patriots who take the initiative to study the Constitution and its history for themselves, as opposed to basing their understanding of the Constitution on hearsay, gossip and wives’ tales, can tell you that gay marriage is not a constitutionally protected right for the following reasons.

First, the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution’s silence about things like marriage means that such issues are automatically unique state power issues, the feds having no control over such issues.

Next, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect gay “rights.” So the states are free to make laws which discriminate against constitutionally unprotected gay issues, such as same-sex marriage, as long as such laws don’t also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 9:45:38 AM PST by Amendment10
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OK, now tell us, WaPo, who did you poll? Give the stats:
Age group, geographic area, income, sex - and, most importantly, their sexual “orientation” ...

Then we’ll talk about the validity of this “poll.”

The sodomites are pushing hard against cultural mores, using tactics of intimidation the old and indoctrination of the young. Since they cannot increase their numbers through procreation, they have only seduction to spread their perverted cause.

Americans need to not only resist these reprobates, but we need to start hitting back in this game of hardball ... Take off the gloves and start publishing ALL the various perverted acts practiced by these twisted fools ... Also include the statistics on disease, mortality, assaults, drug abuse, suicide rates, promiscuity ... And the career status and income of the typical homosexual / lesbian ... The light of truth is the greatest disinfectant known to man!


13 posted on 03/05/2014 9:49:43 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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After the “Greatest Generation”, America produced the “Baby Boomers” and now we have the Dumbest Generation. The demise of our country cannot be far behind.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 9:59:25 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Since when are churches forced to marry anyone?


19 posted on 03/05/2014 10:12:50 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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The use of religion is a defacto surrender of logic and reason to the enemy.

The fact is homosexual “marriage” is only about a recreational sex fetish.

Marriage has NEVER EVER had a love test in the eyes of the law.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 10:14:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The 14th Amendment with that Equal Protection Clause is the problem with Gay Marriage and with the Roe decision.

Our only solution is to repeal the 14th Amendment.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 10:31:14 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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And Gay-BC-Disney-News has been totally upfront with the home audience about their gay former CEO and the homosexualists propagandizing in the newsroom, right?

Don’t ask, don’t tell is apparently only bad policy in the US military.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 10:40:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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But we had consensus?

The issue was settled.

I guess that excuse only works for Obamacare and global warming/cooling/climate change.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 10:41:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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Makes sense. The spiritually insane elected the monstrosity-in-chief. Twice. A Christian nation would’ve never elected that scumbag. So now we’re a nation of majority scumbags. They wanted a president that reflected their own depravity, and they got him.

As for me and my house...


27 posted on 03/05/2014 10:48:01 AM PST by afsnco
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translation: more than half of us have never read the US Constitution


29 posted on 03/05/2014 10:57:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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I'm not buying ANY of that crap!

This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


30 posted on 03/05/2014 11:00:19 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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I could care less what half of present day America believes, what the mob on the street believes, or what adolescent teenagers believe. This nation and our Constitution and laws are founded on Christian moral principles and are the foundation for all our law. The Bill of Rights did not discuss abortion or homosexual marriage at our founding because such sinful and evil things did not even occur to them. It was not an issue to discuss as they considered abortion murder and homosexuality vile and not part of the public discussion for civilized people. What you did in private was your own business, but in the public square of a Christian nation open sinfulness was not in the business for the Federal government to regulate. The Constitution had no need to define murder, theft, adultery, perjury, gluttony, and all manner of public evils and the penalties for behavior that were destructive to society. They left these decisions up to the states and local government to rule and regulate. All power not granted to the Federal government belonged to the people and the states to govern and rule themselves. The states did do that and had different approaches and penalties, but still all based upon Christian Judeo ethics and morality.

As the nation grew and changed with immigration and has fallen from a majority Christian and religious people the sinful issues have come forward and the Federal Court has gone were it had no grounds to go and is redefining the Constitution without a national state convention and ruling from the bench and altering our laws. What should be left up to the states is now forced on us all.

God knew we would get to this point someday. So did our founding fathers as Madison and Jefferson who wrote the constitution stated that only a moral and religious people could uphold the document and government and that the Constitution only worked with a Christian nation. Now that we are losing faith as a nation and losing our founding principles as a Christian majority the nation is coming unglued and failing. Government is failing, drugs and crime are epidemic, the economy and employment are failing, and we are ruled by tyrants that are regulating freedom into the prison cell and setting the sinful and evil that belongs in prison free to destroy society.

So, the ruler of the free world has lost its course and the world has now gone to hell as well. Soon it will all break loose and the 4 horseman will ride. This nation has lost is blessing from God, is pressuring God’s people in Israel to do the wrong things, and is tolerating a culture of sin and death. American’s of faith see this and pray for help while stocking up on the means to feed and protective themselves from the storm that is coming. Noah had an arc and we have Jesus Christ. Those without faith will fall with the evil that is coming.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 11:12:26 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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