Posted on 03/01/2014 10:38:19 PM PST by Jeff Head
Here's how you stop and deter Putin. it is how George Bush got the job done in 2008 in Georgia.
Bush started out by talking to him face to face in Beijing and letting him know, man to man, that it was not going to go as Putin imagined.
We had military advisors already on the ground there. Bush immediately expedited the return of 2,000 members of Georgia's 31st Light Infantry Battalion who had been fighting beside US Marines in Afghanistan.
He then sent in more US personnel and material on C-130s and C-17s...direct to Tiblisi and immediately (which is what we should be doing right now to Kiev). When those US C-17s and C-130s went in, they had a lot of US personnel on them in addition to the supplies and material...and that was in addition to the military personnel we already had there.
Bush did not pull those out...he added more to it and made it clear to Putin that a push into and through Tiblisi was going to put the US Military in the line of fire and that Putin DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
In addition, in short order, three US warships and three NATO warships entered the Black Sea. Some brought supplies, others stood by and defended them. The three NATO warships and one of the US warships were top of the line surface combatants with two AEGIS vessels and two other guided-missile vessels.
Putin knew that Bush meant what he said. He had seen it already time and again over the seven years prior. He consiodered the cost of rolling over those US personnel and what the consequences would be, and he knew there would be very severe consequences with a heavy interest payment.
The following are all pictures from the events of the day, during the Georgian crisis, of us material, more advisors, equipment flowing in. Of US advisors already on the ground and training Georgian forces immediately prior to and during the crisis, and US and NATO warships all sent into the Black Sea during the crisis.
Bush drew a stark line in the sand...and he did it with the US military even as the Russian forces were nearing the capitol...and Putin paused, and then stopped, and negotiated.
Now THAT'S how you deter a man like Putin. Stop talking and start acting.
-PJ
But our effeminate, metro-sexual President will not do so. He is being "more flexible," don't you know?
That won’t happen with Obama and his military advisors who know what is what have all been replaced by PC toadies. None of them would read this post and feel anything but disgusted with such maneuvers.
You guys act like Reagan is president. The number one value this laughing stock nation of ours now exports is gay rights. Take off your Cold War glasses. We are the commies now.
Obama has hollowed out the US military - and its not in a position to stop Russia.
Obama is many things but he is no Harry Truman. The Russians know he will do nothing.
They have seen the measure of the man on Syria and he punted. His threats won’t cow them.
And such sanctions as Russia will face are bearable.
That would indeed work. The question is why? The first maidan movement was turned violent by Nazi quoting Right Sector types who violently overthrew the seat in Kiev. They did it without the slightest proof they represent a majority. They were just more violent.
So why should we risk war with Nuclear Russia for people who are enthusiastically supported by the MSM, Kerry, McCain, Hillary, Obama, and the EU leadership?
Putin is testing Obama, because he knows Obama doesn’t have what it takes. Nobody in the White House has what it takes.
It’s the price of electing a fool as President.
Right or wrong, The chances of Russia giving up on Ukraine are about as good as O proving his eligibility for office ( or Hilly receiving the Miss Congenity Award).
we don't have this type of leadership now, not even close.
Thanks Jeff Head.
Maybe 1% people in that crowd are neo-nazi', therefore we hould condemn all Ukrainians to foreign domination??
Bttt
Nice idea, wrong administration.
A) You just made up that 1% number.
B) That number is an microscopic fraction of the Ukraine’s population. The occupy crowd was just as numerous and more widespread.
C) The Nazi sympathizing factions took over that square with an iron fist by mid december.
D) The actual Nazi party was very very small in the beginning, but nobody dared stand against them. Just like radical islamists, they don’t need to be the majority to call the tune. Their violent nature makes others afraid to oppose them.
Bull. Apart from breakaway regions Georgia had a stable pro-American government. In Ukraine you don’t have any stable government but uncontrolled armed groups of whatsoever affiliation running wild with all kinds of weapons. Kiev doesn’t control a thing there as far as a dozen Russians arrives at major airbase and captures it without a shot fired. And Ukrainian naval flagship flies a Russian St.Andrew.
Not even a Ukrainian military decided which is their side, let alone Ukrainian people and you want to intervene, on part of whom?
Imagine a US warship sunk or aircraft shotdown. Whom will you blame for it? Russians, Muslims, Nazis, Anarchists, Isolationists?
There aren’t enough “neo-nazi’s” in Ukraine to fill that picture.
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