Posted on 03/01/2014 11:00:08 AM PST by jimbo123
Edited on 03/01/2014 11:05:24 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Ms. Larouche, how can you comment on the situation in Ukraine at the current time?
I think it is extremely important that the truth about the events be made internationally known because there is such an absolute discrepancy between what is happening or what has been happening and how the mainstream Western media have been portraying events.
I think that the press conference by President Yanukovych from yesterday, where he stated that he still is the legitimate president of Ukraine, is absolutely true because there was no impeachment procedure and what happened in Kiev was a coup by people who are predominantly openly Nazis. They are obviously back to the tradition of Stepan Bandera, who was a Nazi collaborator in the 1940 helping the invasion of the Nazis. And these are people who openly use the slogans, logos which are very clearly Nazi.
And all the outside interference was also very clearly proven by the statement of Victoria Nuland with the US Ambassador to Kiev. And now they have a guy who claims to be President, who Victoria Nuland calls "Yats." So they have now a President Yats, who claims to be President, and he lacks any legitimacy.
Yanukovych said during that press conference he is planning to return to Ukraine. How realistic do you think is this?
Well, I think it really depends on the person and the truth about who is now being made known internationally, which is already happening: many more articles, especially in the internet and blogs, but also some mainstream press started to report it, and I think this is absolutely kosher, and naturally it also depends on the internal situation both in the EU and in the US.
You had yesterday this very remarkable contradiction in which President Obama got himself into, where he gave a press conference in front of international press, where he basically said that it would have “very serious consequences” if Russia would intervene in the Crimea or in general in Ukraine. And then a little bit later he said there would be serious costs, possibly even military reaction from the US on NATO. And then 45 minutes later in the Capitol Hilton Hotel in front of the Democratic National Committee, and when somebody asked him, about ten minutes into his speech, “Obama, tell us something about your plan of a nuclear war against Russia,” Obama was obviously caught off guard completely and said, "What the hell are you talking about?" and asked this person what he was reading he denied exactly what he had said 45 minutes earlier.
Now, that is really getting to the truth of the matter. So I don’t think it’s not only about what happens inside Ukraine and how realistic it is, it really depends on a lot of outside circumstances because what happened in Ukraine was not triggered by inside Ukraine, but you had many people who claimed they are for the association with the EU had been organized by 2,200 NGOs, which are financed by the West, from the National Endowment of Democracy to George Soros’s Foundation to the Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung. This inside meddling led in 2004 to the Orange Revolution and part of what has happened was activated by these kinds of people and financed from the outside.
But then you also have this eruption of Nazi organizations which are really run by the British because in the post-war period Nazi collaborators were not prosecuted despite the fact that they had killed tens of thousands of Jews and Polish people and Ukrainian communists. But they were taken over by MI6, and also Allan Dallas, and later they were taken over by General Gehlen from the organization of the BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst).
So these are not honest people, but this is an operation by the British Empire to destabilize Russia. It is really directed against Russia. And it obviously has a danger of a further nuclear confrontation, which if it occurs will lead to complete extinction of the human race. Therefore it’s really up to the US to return back to its Constitution and it’s up to the EU, or rather to the people in the EU, to make sure the truth is known about this danger which is really threatening the civilization as a whole.
Voice of Russia
It is not only the Larouche nuts who are saying this. Jim Robinson doesn’t want the name of the woman mentioned in this forum, but she says it, too.
Wow. There seems to be a concerted effort on FR to label any Ukrainian seeking freedom as a Nazi, and siding with Putin. Nice job, disruptors!
The Ukrainian situation cannot be simplified into the sound bites most Americans expect to be spoon fed. It’s much more complicated. Add in the Russian disinformation and it gets more confusing.
What is your agenda?
Your repetitious mantra throughout these threads is becoming monotonous.
Congratulate yourself for mastering the copy/paste feature on your computer. Now perhaps you could try typing something thought provoking, original and based on real facts.
okay, you win. I did not like the ice cream but it was a nice gesture on your part. I lied when I said I love broccoli.
“Voice of Russia”
LOL ! You do realize that the Voice of Russia is owned by Russian government ?
Oh, OK, George!
Propaganda uses something called “blood liable.” Those people on the other side kidnap and eat our babies. They must be killed without mercy. They’re not human. Accusing somebody of being a Nazi or racist is similar. First, label them. Make them different and inferior in every way. The very fact that Putin has engaged the propaganda machinery tells us what his intentions are. We’ll probably see a WWII level style of killing.
Also, the same people siding with the Western Ukrainian “Freedom Fighters” (Obama, Soros, Nuland, Kerry, etc) are the same people who sided with Al Qaeda in Syria and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Why shouldn’t we be suspicious when Obama picks sides?
“blood libel”
The problem is that most of those repeating the propaganda talking points are merely mindless parrots, useful idiots, who “want to stop Obama from starting a war with Russia”.
I haven’t seen enough to make that call. I’m open to reading more if you have sources.
And you think you will “keep Obama from starting a war with Russia” by posting on this forum?
“Its much more complicated.”
Therein lies the lesson we should pay close attention to. When the consent of the governed is withdrawn, chaos reigns and the prepared & merciless will fast take advantage of it.
I must confess I do not like war ... and I hate broccoli flavored ice cream.
One way out of that conundrum is to pick a side yourself, first. /s
Please don't ask me to explain why, because if you need to ask . . . .
I choose the American People’s Side. I know the American People have made mistakes and so has Israel but I will choose these two first as my favorites for where we are headed.
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