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To: Candor7

Obama and Kerry also need to shut up about it. It’s none of our business. Whatever debts the US owed Europe were paid in full with the end of the Cold War. We’ve got no obligation to destroy our nation by stepping in the bottomless pit of world policeman and self-appointed champion of “democracy”.


7 posted on 03/01/2014 3:25:16 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I agree here. Europe has been demilitarized for 30 years relying upon the US so they can expand their social empires. Last week it was reported the Swiss Airforce works 8 to 5 only and then only during the week. So, they were unavailable to intercept an incoming hijacked plane relying upon two other nations to do it for them! The only surprise is it was not the USAF doing it.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 3:30:24 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Obama and Kerry also need to shut up about it. It’s none of our business. Whatever debts the US owed Europe were paid in full with the end of the Cold War. We’ve got no obligation to destroy our nation by stepping in the bottomless pit of world policeman and self-appointed champion of “democracy”.

How many times must we win the war and lose the peace?

The collapse of the Soviet empire, the liberation of Eastern Europe, and the dismantling of the USSR were geopolitical victories of the highest order. Obama should have been working to consolidate and extend these developments.

Doing this in the right way would have been not at all "anti-Russian;" it would have meant a good faith effort to move all the victims of communism, including the Russians, into a full embrace of open societies, free markets, and democracy.

Of course, that would have required time, attention, hard work, strategic vision, and a commitment to open societies, free markets, and democracy. None of which seem to be in this president's repertoire.

14 posted on 03/01/2014 4:14:12 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; Candor7
It’s none of our business

When Ukraine gave up its nukes, the US alongside the Russian Federation took the responsibility of guaranteeing the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Do we want the aftermath of the Cold War redefined?

The next stage was the signing on January 14, 1994 of the Trilateral Statement by the Presidents of Ukraine, Russia, and the United States under which Ukraine was to destroy all nuclear weapons on its territory, including strategic offensive weapons. Ukraine, Washington and Moscow reached an agreement in January that allowed for the dismantling of Ukraine's 176 Intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBMs) ahead of Kiev's formal ratification of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[3][4] France and China provided unilateral security assurances in the form of diplomatic notes. The missiles—130 SS-18s and 46 SS-24s—carried about 1,800 nuclear warheads altogether.

Nuclear weapons and Ukraine

On December 5, 1994, Ukraine acceded to the Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear weapon state. On that same date, the US, Russia and United Kingdom provided security assurances to Ukraine, and the START I Treaty also entered into force.

The US-Russia-Ukraine Trilateral Statement and Annex

I agree that with the kind of president we have, he better shut up altogether.

30 posted on 03/01/2014 5:28:25 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Anschluss was nobody elses’ business either.


32 posted on 03/01/2014 5:50:28 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Obama and Kerry also need to shut up about it. It’s none of our business.


This is primarily a Europe problem but to say it isn’t our business is disingenuous. The US trades with Russia. It absolutely is our business.

Do we really want to send money to countries at the same time they are rolling tanks over their neighbors?

A strong response was needed from both Ukraine and the international community.

But nothing will happen because Putin has bribed and intimidated EU leaders.


33 posted on 03/01/2014 5:52:48 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Wow, Hitler would of appreciated your help a few decades ago.
You stupid statements are unreal.
You think Putin is stopping at Ukraine !
No way Poland’s next..


34 posted on 03/01/2014 6:03:07 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I agree but for different reasons. History shows we have intervened on the wrong side many times. The govt apparatus of this nation supplies weapons to the terrorists in Syria that kill behead kidnap innocents —and we have the chutzpah to think we support what is good? far from it.


76 posted on 03/01/2014 11:38:29 AM PST by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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