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Planned food safety rules rile organic farmers (CSPI supported rules)
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Posted on 02/23/2014 10:55:18 AM PST by matt04
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Food safety advocates have urged regulators to hang tough. "We don't believe large facilities are the only place where outbreaks are happening," said Caroline Smith DeWaal, food safety director at the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington.Hahahahah. Let me guess many of these small organic farmers support the CSPI or similar groups when they seek to impose stricter rules on larger non-organic farms.
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posted on
02/23/2014 10:55:19 AM PST
by
matt04
To: matt04
The sad part is that the cantelopes weren’t tainted from where they grew, but from a contaminated truck which hauled them.
Once again, the overreach is staggering!
To: matt04
But he is not the only organic grower to suddenly discover federal inspectors trespassing on his land.
Above is my edit, obviously. You cannot pick and choose what rights the fedguv has based on behavior you wish to modify. They can't have the right to infringe upon your ability to grow and consume a plant on your property, but not have the right to determine what crops you can grow and how they are grown.
You have to see these rights generically applied. If you don't like them applied in one circumstance, you can't like them applied in any circumstance. I only point this out to folks who have no problem allowing the interstate commerce clause used in ways they approve on the one hand, and disapprove of it in other ways.
Choose a side. It's not complicated. Stepping off my soapbox to go grab some Pho.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:06:55 AM PST
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: matt04
OOOOOps!
the Libs yapping about organic are now the target.
I buy “ organic “, non antibiotic, etc meats from wholefoods..veggies and fruits, well, it depends.
Leave it to the capitalist private sector..Let the consumer decide.We’re not stupid.
To: andyk
This is one of those shoot, shovel and shut up moments.
Feral Agent from whatever under Obastard = Agent of tyranny = legitimate target.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:13:51 AM PST
by
Ouderkirk
(To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I buy organic , non antibiotic, etc meats from wholefoods..veggies and fruits, well, it depends.
Agreed. Leave it to the private sector. Did you know there's now a Whole Foods in Boise? Reno should relinquish it's nickname.
I prefer to buy veggies directly from farmers who can tell me how they grow their crops. I don't care whether the USDA certifies it as organic. Unfortunately, out in Fargo, that's not an option, so I buy whatever veggies the store has.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:15:09 AM PST
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: matt04
ten buck$ says he got what he voted for...
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:18:31 AM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: matt04
he’s going to totally alienate all the small scale organic hippy farmers , who were one of his ,admittedly minor , solid bases of support . I love it .
To: matt04
Organic and local produce farming and buying must be unnerving Monsanto, ADM and the rest who own much of Congress.
Remember that most regulations are written by the huge food conglomerates themselves. These regs seem to put many restrictions on those conglomerates, but they can afford to comply with them. Small farmers can't. That's the strategy.
They are not trying to protect us. They are protecting themselves from competition.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:26:14 AM PST
by
Dr. Thorne
("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
To: matt04
If there really is concern about solving a problem, it seems that farmers who sell their own produce at the farm or at nearby cooperatives that clearly identify the source farms should be exempt from these rules. At that point, the consumer has the ability to make responsible choices.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:35:43 AM PST
by
grania
To: Dr. Thorne
To: matt04
We want "sustainability" when it's impossible.
When it is possible, we want it outlawed.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:37:28 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
To: andyk
what rights the fedguv has The federal government has NO rights. It has only powers, delegated by the States in the Constitution.
Only people have rights.
/johnny
To: Dr. Thorne
Here in Maine the number of new small farms is four times the national average.
With only 1.3 million people, the FDA has opened it’s third regional office.
There is no other state with 3.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:50:21 AM PST
by
maine yankee
(I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
To: JRandomFreeper
Thank you for the correction, and agreed.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:52:32 AM PST
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: maine yankee
Is there a rope and lamp-post shortage in Maine? ;)
/johnny
To: matt04
Let me guess many of these small organic farmers support the CSPI or similar groups when they seek to impose stricter rules on larger non-organic farms. I seriously doubt it. CSPI loves corporate farming and corporate feeding..........they seek to destroy all mom and pop endeavors that involve food and beverage - whether growing, processing, or serving.
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posted on
02/23/2014 11:53:52 AM PST
by
Gabz
(Democrats for Voldemort.)
To: grania; Dr. Thorne; matt04; LeoWindhorse; E. Pluribus Unum
grania :" ..At that point, the consumer has the ability to make responsible choices."
Exactly true ..but ,..they dont want us to have a choice !!
Also , as Dr thune stated : they dont want to protect us ,
They want to protect their monoploy ( think economic/ profit motive).
E. Pluribus Unum :"We want "sustainability" when it's impossible.
When it is possible, we want it outlawed."
A recent example is what is happening to the "Gasoline /Energy" and the "Coal Industry"
Create a current unreachable guidance goal , hide it behind current unachieveable technological goal,(none of which is COngress controlled)
then chide the industry for not reaching those guidance goals ,
resulting in fines ($$) to discourage those who remain in the industry FROM PERSISTING !!
It is government controlled "Cloward-Piven"
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posted on
02/23/2014 12:09:27 PM PST
by
Tilted Irish Kilt
(Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
To: matt04
Probably these food safety “activists” are simply more of the Move On .org crowd
trying to make as many people as miserable as possible, not be able to run a small business, and eventually starve us all to death.
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posted on
02/23/2014 12:41:40 PM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: Tilted Irish Kilt
It is government controlled Cloward-Piven"I get that. I also "get it" that Keynesian economics and treating government -issued money as a commodity is a problem. But there are two sides of the coins...dems and 'pubs....and neither side comes even close to representing anyone, globally, except the top 5% or so of the world's population.
The question is, how does it change? I fear the answer to that question.
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posted on
02/23/2014 12:45:58 PM PST
by
grania
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