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Teens defend ‘fail factory’ high school in error-filled letters
NY Post ^ | 2/23/14 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 02/23/2014 5:18:26 AM PST by Libloather

These kids should learn write from wrong.

Earlier this month, The Post exposed a scheme at Manhattan’s Murry Bergtraum HS for Business Careers in which failing students could get full credit without attending class, but instead watch video lessons and take tests online. One social-studies teacher had a roster of 475 students in all grades and subjects.

Red-faced administrators encouraged a student letter-writing campaign to attack The Post and defend its “blended learning” program. Eighteen kids e-mailed to argue that their alma mater got a bad rap.

Almost every letter was filled with spelling, grammar and punctuation errors.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: petercooper

Haaah skrewels.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 9:03:28 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Tax-chick

“You don’t have to be “smart” to learn to read, write, and do arithmetic. You don’t even have to be average. You do have to be taught. Those with lower native ability and in less helpful environments, especially, have to be taught by the proven, basic methods. Phonics, math facts, penmanship and composition. Drill, drill, drill. Memorize, memorize, memorize.”

Well said.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 9:09:35 AM PST by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: fso301
why is the schools fault that large percentages of parents don't see to it that their children do their homework?

Because a skillful teacher can encourage students to want to do their homework, with rewards for the effort and not just handing in correct answers that were done by mommy and daddy or a tutor.

It's not hard at all to write assignments that students can do without their support group doing it for them. Homework should be reinforcement for what was learned in the classroom. In many cases, the problem is that the teacher fails to teach something well or at all, and the only students who "get it" are those who have someone else outside the classroom teaching it for them. And then they blame the kid for not having parents who can teach the lesson or pay someone to do so.

After I retired, I spent about four years as math coordinator at a high-end learning center. Some teachers were like gold mines for us....most of our students came from their classes and they needed someone to teach the material.

43 posted on 02/23/2014 9:11:50 AM PST by grania
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To: grania
Because a skillful teacher can encourage students to want to do their homework, with rewards for the effort and not just handing in correct answers that were done by mommy and daddy or a tutor.

That may work better when home environments are more stable but when the chaotic home environment is characterized by blended families, loud music/TV and people chattering/yelling/arguing, how is the child expected to get anything done at home?

44 posted on 02/23/2014 9:21:13 AM PST by fso301
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To: Libloather

The most essential attribute to learn is to have the ability to learn.


45 posted on 02/23/2014 9:26:52 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Libloather

Irony is a type of humor that requires a ‘smidgen’ of intelligence, rendering it incomprehensible to liberals.


46 posted on 02/23/2014 9:27:00 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Libloather

Must have taught there the ‘Evelyn Woodhead Sped Reedin Korse.’


47 posted on 02/23/2014 9:29:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: EinNYC

Why should resources be wasted on these people? Why bother to try to educate them at all? It’s a waste of time, effort, and money.

Let them meet at a recreation hall in the morning. They can play basketball, have double dutch contests, some type of vocational training, whatever. At least they will be off the streets for eight hours.

Encourage the 11% who are really interested in learning and forget the rest.

It’s hopeless and it’s never, ever going to change.

Enough is enough!


48 posted on 02/23/2014 9:36:56 AM PST by goldi
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To: Kirkwood
In other words, "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

49 posted on 02/23/2014 9:40:54 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Libloather

Business Career and you watch videos? Unless you are going to be a Video game designer, what other business will let you goof off?


50 posted on 02/23/2014 9:42:32 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: cripplecreek

“Awarding” for “rewarding” isn’t the end of the world. The excerpts were selected for these errors, so they are not evidence that the letters were filled with them.

Even if they are typical, they show extensive use of compound syntax, and in that regard I would consider them very encouraging if I were an English teacher, which I ain’t.


51 posted on 02/23/2014 9:52:52 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Illiteracy wasn't the biggest problem facing the former Detroit school board president, Otis Mathis.

I won't go into detailed particulars because you can Google them.

He resigned and faced criminal charges because he fondled himself whenever he met with Detroit School Superintendent Teresa Gueyse. Even given the lewdness of that action, Mathis crossed the line one day in 2010. Again, Google it.

Mathis resigned, then requested reinstatement to his position.

One board member, the Rev. David Murray, was in favor of the 55-year-old Mathis' reinstatement, saying:

“He’s a young man; maybe he didn’t know it was offensive to her. It’s not something I would do. He’s a young man. That’s just the way it is.”

I kid you not.

52 posted on 02/23/2014 10:52:18 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: EinNYC

When liberals don’t have the facts on their side, they call names.


53 posted on 02/23/2014 11:22:30 AM PST by abclily
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To: Kirkwood

I did not say these children were dumb. They need to be exposed to capable teaching. Each child wants to succeed.


54 posted on 02/23/2014 11:25:11 AM PST by abclily
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To: Libloather

They ol’ skewel. We new skewel. Don’t be retartet


55 posted on 02/23/2014 11:40:55 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Em and Brets Mum

Thanks.


56 posted on 02/23/2014 11:47:36 AM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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To: Libloather

The one response was correct.

“We are the future of New Your city, and for some. The future of the country.”


57 posted on 02/23/2014 12:14:57 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I wondered that myself. Not only that, look at the stressed “e’s” across all the sampled replies, the common usage and forms of “helpxxx”, the stressed “pro” character strings in “program” and “reportxx”. A single illiterate teacher did them all!


58 posted on 02/23/2014 12:19:31 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SgtHooper

Er, or she transcribed them to look better. The handwriting had to be atrocious.


59 posted on 02/23/2014 12:21:56 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: shelterguy

At least they’re no longer required to learn to read cursive.


60 posted on 02/23/2014 12:26:19 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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