Posted on 02/23/2014 12:29:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Television pictures of revolutions can make them seem like a spectator sport.
Having Vitali Klitschko, the world heavyweight boxing champion, playing a starring role in the events in Kiev reinforces that impression.
But the implosion of the Ukrainian state in the last 48 hours is a political earthquake.
Chaos in Kiev could set off a tsunami that will toss Western Europe from its moorings too.
It is a mistake to think we are watching from a safe distance.
Maybe Ukraine is as foreign to the British people today as it was when an obscure crisis on its southern coast in Queen Victoria’s reign became the Crimean War.
But not since the 1850s has this country come so close to colliding with Russia.
Ukraine sits on the fault line dividing Eastern Europe between pro-Western and pro-Russian views. Her people are split over attitudes to the old imperial capital, Moscow.
That divide is now opening up as pro-Russian districts in the East such as Kharkov and Crimea refuse to accept the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych celebrated in Kiev.
Civil war would be a tragedy for Ukraine’s people. But what makes the crisis so dangerous is the international dimension.
Since the collapse of Communism in 1991, the US and its European allies have seen keeping Ukraine independent of Russia as a key result of victory in the Cold War.
For Russians, losing Ukraine was a huge blow....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Note to knarf: yes, you did, in your disclaimer. NSA doesn't parse, it picks up on words.
Alas poor knarf ... I knew him well.
90 days is not perceived as a limit for this president. Who will challenge him on day 100? the Republicans? Hah!
If I say, "I like a clean nose and I clean it often"
and tag it with (btw, I didn't say "pick my nose")
I am in fact saying I pick my nose ?
If so, I need to sit down with myself and analyze my thinking and composition.
Mugabe = Muzorewa
Learn to make colloidal silver.
Solzhenytsin is not germaine to the problem in Ukraine. No one is quoting him in Kiev. Lenin is to them a symbol of Russian domination, not Communism per se.
Emporer Soros is calling shots from his Death Star. He reportedly has a big hand in this uprising. We know he’s playing chess in this matter for his own interest. Which ones will probably become evident soon:
http://www.infowars.com/soros-funded-libyan-scenario-now-unfolding-in-ukraine/
Are you sure about that?...on a map the German led EU today looks a lot like Nazi Germany.
No. you are saying the word “nose” which is what the NSA would pick up on if that is one of their flag words.
Got it ... thanx.
Yes but with the caveat that the mausoleum has lost its Honor Guard which has been sent to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier around the corner of the Kremlin Wall. Plus there are no lines to see Lenin. I just walked in and it was just he and I.
In Munich there are certain beer halls that maintain a certain whatzit because of who once gave regular harangues there.
You need a diversion.
You need something that will unite the country back around you and your supposed leadership. Something that could allow you to use power against your own people under the guise of war if necessary. Wouldn't this be the perfect opportunity. To claim that you are helping the people of the Ukraine against the vices of communist Russia when in reality you have created such ROE's and weakened the military so much that it would just be another conflict that would drag on forever at least until Nov. 2012 if necessary.
Great post. While the left its EU and the commie ruskies fight it out for dominance over UK. If we had half a brain we could win both those wars simply by embracing capitalism and spurring on cheaper prices which always win any war.
Thanks for your thoughts, both of you. Your seeming knowledge in these histories is precious to those of lesser historical learning and whets the mind to study more.
“...Lenin is to them a symbol of Russian domination, not Communism per se...”
I disagree. Why would Lenin symbolize that when the Czars also dominated the Ukraine? Why would the Russians change the name of Leningrad if they too did not want to distance themselves from the communist era? My Ukrainian wife if from Alchevsk in the Eastern Ukraine but she and her family hate Yanukovych. They also do not like the EU bullying on issues like the death penalty and other Euroweenie issues.
It is not like those people in the Ukraine have forgotten the shortages suffered under the communists when one had to line up to get flour, butter, eggs, sugar, etc. which went on through the 1980s before being replaced by the chaos of the breakup.
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