Posted on 02/12/2014 9:07:15 AM PST by Nachum
Even IF they could not...the big question is why they NEVER tried to get there. Who called the stand down? Did Obama know? (he had to have been informed simply because of the nature of the terrorist attack), WHY did they stand down and never show up? WHO gave and WHO approved those orders? WHY the cover-up? Who told Susan Rice to follow the offensive video excuse? And WHO is being held ACCOUNTABLE Mr. Obama? You are more than an empty suit or an empty chair. You, Sir, are a traitor to the Constitution.
BS
Even if they could not have done anything....they were refused the opportunity to even try...which, unless they had a scheduled end time, was still of import.
The ‘reporter’ is an Obama Koolaid drinker so I wouldn’t put too much stock in this.
The military might of this nation can do NOTHING if they are never called into action. That is why the Joint Chiefs of Staff are under the Commander In Chief, who was himself AWOL.
Sadly for those murdered, this is not a winnable fight for conservatives. The kenyan and kankles will always be able to tap dance their way around Benghazi due to the Top Secret nature of the annex.
It’s far better to devote our energy to ongoing issues like the IRS and Democratcare scandals.
I guess if you do nothing, you would need a report to say you did the correct thing.
Especially since the ambassador was in a safe room. If the ambassador had not left it, the attack could have gone on almost indefinitely.
As Media Matters reports.....roflol!
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They are trying to confuse the before with during the attack. Clearly before the attack they were refused support may times.
During the attack there was no "Stand Down" order as there did not need to be. The only person who could issue an action order during the attack was Obama and he declined to do so.
No approval equals "stand down" that's how command works and no amount of spin will change that.
Obama can claim he did not issue a stand down order but the real questions is, What did you do then?
And to that we still don't have an answer.
Someone pls explain the difference?
So the fact that our ambassador was living in a home in a residential neighborhood,with none of the required security enhancements, required by law in an alqueda hotbed of terror attacks on the 9/11 anniversary,just means nothing.
The fact that no one has even asked the question of what the hell he was doing there in the first place,with local militia as security is outrageous
Exactly.
On what basis does the report conclude:
"...the military was not positioned to respond to the attack."
when it also states:
"...U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi."
It may be correct that there was no stand down order issued.., but what is relevant is that there was no "go" order by the only authority that could issue such.
The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee, however, concluded in its new report that no such order was given; rather, Army Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson, then-head of the site security team at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, was ordered by higher commanders to remain in Tripoli, lest another attack take place there as part of a larger coordinated assault.
How is that "Stay in Tripoli" NOT a "Stand Down" order in reaction to the Benghazi terrorist attack?
Precedence dialing is still done on the military phone networks, but using number combinations (Example: Entering 93 before a number is a priority call) rather than the separate tones and the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service has superseded Autovon for any civilian priority telco access.
Present-day uses of the A, B, C and D keys on telephone networks are few, and exclusive to network control. For example, the A key is used on some networks to cycle through different carriers at will (thereby listening in on calls). Their use is probably prohibited by most carriers. The A, B, C and D tones are used in radio phone patch and repeater operations to allow, among other uses, control of the repeater while connected to an active phone line.
The *, #, A, B, C and D keys are still widely used worldwide by Amateur radio operators for repeater control, remote-base operations and VOIP-based communications systems.
DTMF tones are also used by some cable television networks and radio networks to signal the local cable company/network station to insert a local advertisement or station identification. These tones were often heard during a station ID preceding a local ad insert. Previously, terrestrial television stations also used DTMF tones to shut off and turn on remote transmitters.
DTMF signaling tones can also be heard at the start or end of some VHS (Video Home System) cassette tapes. Information on the master version of the video tape is encoded in the DTMF tone. The encoded tone provides information to automatic duplication machines, such as format, duration and volume levels, in order to replicate the original video as closely as possible.
DTMF tones are sometimes used in caller ID systems to transfer the caller ID information, however in the USA only Bell 202 modulated FSK signaling is used to transfer the data.
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.
Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "
Ok I read the whole interim report (and the Warren Commission Report)
Maybe NSA had put more time in collecting intelligence from foreigners instead of US Citizens they would have passed that info on to State(primary responsibility to protect embassy personnel) and DOD.
State withdrew 16 person Special Forces security force from Tripoli prior to attack even though DOD wanted them to stay
Responding forces had to change from military uniforms to civilian clothes so as not to anger locals.(idiot pc decision)
Benghazi had a SMC Special Mission Compound that DOD was not aware of. Whats that all about?
Stand down depends on how you perceive it, apparently it meant to be ready but don’t do anything but watch Americans get killed IMHO.
....Colonel Gibson: Madam Chairman, I was not ordered to stand down. I was ordered to remain in place. Stand down implies that we cease all operations, cease all activities. We continued to support the team that was in Tripoli. We continued to maintain visibility of the events as they unfolded.106.....
see page 7 for BS from Obama about preparation.
.....Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey then left for the White House to attend an unrelated routine weekly meeting with the President. Upon arrival, the two discussed the attack with the President for FIFTEEN TO THIRTY minutes, at which time they presumably shared all that was known about the unfolding events, including the fact that the ambassador and the subordinate (Mr. Sean Smith) were missing.48 According to Secretary Panettas statements to the Senate, the President directed both myself and General Dempsey to do everything we need to do to try to protect the lives in Benghazi.49 General Dempsey recounted to the House Armed Services Committee:
the President instructed us to use all available assets to respond to the attacks to ensure the safety of U.S. personnel in Libya and to protect U.S. personnel and interests throughout the region.50
Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey eventually returned to the Pentagon and guided the response from there.51
[A]s to specifics of the U.S. reaction, Secretary Panetta testified to the Senate that the President left that up to us. Secretary Panetta said the President was well informed about events and worried about American lives. He and General Dempsey also testified they had no further contact with the President, nor did Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ever communicate with them that evening.
(3am phone call?)
Oh they apparently still haven’t talked to Brennan or WH staffers...LOL...
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The report is BS according to Admiral Lyons. He says F16s from Italy could have been there in 2 hrs. I believe they are armed with 20 mm cannon and can be armed with air to ground missiles which would have taken care of the attackers especially since they were being laser targeted.
. ...Secretary Panetta said the President was well informed about events and worried about American lives. He and General Dempsey also testified they had no further contact with the President, nor did Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ever communicate with them that evening..............................................................
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