[TomGuy]

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

De facto amnesty. Oh, by the way, that 12 million is probably closer to 30 million.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

What makes these politicians think these illegals will be coming out of the shadows? Assimilating? Doubtful, as many eventually return to Mexico after a few years. Productive contributors? Yes, especially to Mexico, as they send some $20 Billion plus, back to Mexico each year.

The politicians are the ones feigning stupid on this issue. They should read some of the facts and figures, rather than the La Raza and Chamber of Commerce propaganda.

Illegal Aliens Sent $21.6 BILLION in Cash Back to Mexico in 2013

[Alberta's Child]

There was an interesting item in the business report on a local radio station here in the NYC area within the last couple of weeks. From what the guest was saying, the real push here isn't for citizenship at all: it's for a flood of new temporary visas that would allow these foreigners to work here. Oddly enough, it seems that there's an understanding among a lot of government and business leaders that most of these illegal immigrants don't really want to stay in the U.S.. This reflects your comment about Mexicans returning home after a few years.