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Predator Drone Used to Arrest American Ranch Family
Cybercast News Service ^ | February 6, 2014 - 1:27 PM | Barbara Boland

Posted on 02/06/2014 6:02:36 PM PST by Olog-hai

A Predator drone designed to catch terrorists in Afghanistan was used to track a recalcitrant North Dakota rancher and his sons accused of cattle thieving and monitor them to see when they were unarmed and alert the police in a case believed to be the first where an American citizen was arrested with the aid of a drone.

On Jan. 14, 2014, Rodney Brossart was acquitted of stealing cattle and criminal mischief, but convicted of terrorizing police (a conviction he is appealing) and sentenced to three years in prison with all but six months suspended.

This all stems from an incident on June 22, 2011, when six cattle from a neighboring property wandered onto Brossart’s ranch. Brossart found the cattle and, not knowing to whom they belonged, penned them in an area known as the “missile site.”

Brossart refused to return the cattle without remuneration (which he is entitled to under state law), but the police asserted that Brossart needed to return the cattle to the neighbor under estray laws. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: brossart; cattleranch; domesticsurveillance; drone; drones; dronesus; first; liberalagenda; predator; predatordrone; surveillance
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To: Valpal1
Maybe he was being a jerk or maybe he wanted to make sure that he was compensated. Either way nothing justifies what was done to him or his family.

Your tag line implies that you have some understanding of the issues involved.

21 posted on 02/06/2014 8:05:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Or Waco. They were just test cases to see how the msm would demonize the victims and the public would go along with it.

It worked. More to come soon I'm afraid.

22 posted on 02/06/2014 8:17:45 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

I don’t talk to cops or consent to searches without a warrant, but this guy has a long history of not playing well with others.

The procedure for getting compensated does not allow for holding the cattle hostage while demanding excessive compensation and running up a bigger feed bill. Sorta like tow truck company storage fees.

This guy brought the shitstorm on himself and then tries to wrap himself in the flag and claim jackboot oppression.

One thing conservatives need to be careful of is getting jacked up over the wrong causes.


23 posted on 02/06/2014 8:26:19 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1
What are sovereign citizen nuts?
24 posted on 02/06/2014 8:33:57 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Obama shouldn’t be allowed to determine the rules on drone engagement when it comes to law enforcement.

Drones should never have been approved for use over the US.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 8:34:42 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: BykrBayb
The few that I've personally run into seemed to think they didn't need driver's licenses or car registrations and issued themselves their own.

Because they're sovereign and the government doesn't have jurisdiction over them.

26 posted on 02/06/2014 8:45:44 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1
They used a drone for the specific purpose of determining whether they had their guns on them or not, so they could avoid a shoot out.

That kind of takes all the fun out of SWAT and armored breaching vehicles doesn't it?

27 posted on 02/06/2014 9:28:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I have been in and through Andrews many times... on my way to Eunice, NM or Kermit, TX. This is the first I have heard of open carry problems in Andrews.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 10:22:42 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: anyone

The previous thread, with link to Daily Mail article. . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2819909/posts


29 posted on 02/06/2014 10:31:12 PM PST by deks
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To: BykrBayb
"What are sovereign citizen nuts? "

The ones I've known don't bother with driver's licenses, vehicle registration, or income taxes. They call themselves 'sovereign citizens' as if they are their own government.

And when they run afoul of that other government, the one that the rest of us grudgingly adhere to, things get interesting and sometimes violent.

One of my coworkers bought into the sovereign citizen idea that income taxes didn't apply to him and he improved his standard of living during the years that he escaped the notice of the IRS. When they caught up with him his lifestyle took a turn for the worse. But at least he wasn't violent and didn't add that to his problems.

30 posted on 02/06/2014 10:49:10 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve set up an ADIZ up to 25k’ on my property. Anyone entering my airspace is a potential target. Aircraft must request permission prior to entering and include a flight pan for entry , exit and altitude.


31 posted on 02/07/2014 2:22:16 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Valpal1

“This guy brought the shitstorm on himself and then tries to wrap himself in the flag and claim jackboot oppression.”

I wasn’t born on this ranch but I’ve been here since Mom was able to leave the hospital, that was almost 64 years ago. I and my family have been at this business for over 100 years. Cows get in and cows get out, if a fence goes down you and your neighbor fix it, if cows crossed y’all gathered them up and got them back where they belong. This is called being a neighbor. My Grand Dad got injured pretty bad back in the late 30’s and neighbors from all around helped work cows when needed. 3 years ago we had a bad fire and half of the ranch burnt taking out the fences between us and the ranch to the west. We had cows every where and it took about 6 months to get them all back where they belong. Not once over all these years has anybody demanded compenstion, it was offered and as always refused. That fine young man pleading to press looks to be the poster boy for what a jerk neighbor would be. These are old ranches down here and we’re all old friends we don’t extort money from each other. Now selling and trading is a whole different game and the old timers held it to a fine art, my Grand Dad was one of the best.


32 posted on 02/07/2014 3:31:30 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Valpal1

Do you have some links? I’ll check them out.


33 posted on 02/07/2014 7:09:47 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: USNBandit
The other accounts I have read about this are way different. They Sheriff went out to talk with the rancher about the cows and was run off at gunpoint. The sheriff's dept asked for air support to cover the sheriff's retreat and a drone returning from it's border patrol track was retasked to support that request. The next day the sheriff had an arrest warrant from a judge and a SWAT team. The dept asked for drone support again and it was granted. CBP could have supported the warrant service with a helicopter from the office across town for less money and no national attention. It sounds to me like the sheriff tried his best Andy Griffith imitation and was run off the property. The next day he brought the entire posse. All for the local Ernest T. Bass and his offspring. Every juridiction seems to have these types.

Credit for attempting to resolve it with discussion and low-levels of impact.

Good Sheriff. Sorry he was pushed to this level.

34 posted on 02/07/2014 7:17:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Eagles6

Local coverage

http://www.wdaz.com/event/search/start_row/21/searchrange/all/keywords/brossart/order/date/


35 posted on 02/07/2014 9:57:11 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Olog-hai
Using a drone to catch cattle thieves?

I don't think that was what they were met for.

36 posted on 02/07/2014 10:03:02 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: McGruff

Actually it is.

Security cameras are used to monitor for criminal action

A drone is merely a movable security camera.


37 posted on 02/07/2014 10:06:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
What's next?

Pull the car over or I'll have to vaporize you.

38 posted on 02/07/2014 10:25:02 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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