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To: SoConPubbie

I agree with this.


2 posted on 02/01/2014 6:42:14 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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Which part?

No border, no E-Verify, granting 30 million+ undocumented Democrats Amnesty?

Or the false hope that a congress comprised of 50% Amnesty loving, border is already secure, Democrats and at least 25% of the same of GOP members "certifying" the border is "Secure"?
3 posted on 02/01/2014 6:44:30 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Sirius Lee

We’ve got 3rd generation illegals here and the simple fact is that they will get amnesty. In fact its pretty unlikely that we stand a snowball’s chance in hell of getting rid of the second generation illegals.

Our goal is to seriously control the borders, enforce the law and minimize the numbers who will get amnesty. And I do mean in that order.


4 posted on 02/01/2014 6:47:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sirius Lee

How bout verify BEFORE trust?

Wouldn’t that make more sense?


5 posted on 02/01/2014 6:50:34 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Sirius Lee
I don't agree with this. But I really believe that about the only chance we have of taking the US back is a Cruz/RandPaul ticket.

I'm never going to agree with a politician 100%. What I do want is people with intelligence, integrity, an eagerness to evaluate the issues and do what's best for the US, and an ability to communicate and inspire.

I would ask Rand Paul to consider two essential arguments to help him understand why some of us feel so strongly about sending invaders home for good. One is that we are supposed to be a nation of laws, and these people came here illegally....it's hypocritical to allow them to stay. Another argument is that the "solution" of legal residency would create a lesser class of those who are allowed in the US. That is a constant drain on wages and jobs for US citizens, without these residents having the path to demand better. It's the 21st centruy version of slavery, cheap labor with less rights....but with government programs subsidizing the underclass.

The only solution is if they don't self deport, give them a one way ticket home. Let a free market place (without the depressed wages the invaders create) sort out matching US citizens with jobs.

6 posted on 02/01/2014 6:51:34 AM PST by grania
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To: Sirius Lee

Well I’m opposed to amnesty because illegal immigration has turned our area into a roach infestation. If you have not experienced it you don’t realize how bad these people are. Its not like the educated middle class of Mexico is moving here. Its the dregs of society.

I would like to challenge Rand Paul to come and stay at our house for a couple of mos and observe the illegals renting next door to us. Then see what he thinks. Let him visit the grocery down the block where he can observe only single hispanic women with kids using their EBT cards. You hardly ever see an American white or black with an EBT card.

They don’t speak English and they don’t integrate into society. Mexicans are highly nationalistic. They don’t care to become American citizens.

Studies have shown that only about 20% of them will come out of the shadows for amnesty. So what I would say to Rand Paul is that if we have to do some kind of amnesty then start with the DREAM kids and do a 5 year amnesty. After that the window closes and if we catch you here illegally you go back the next day. My guess is only 3-5 million people would ever come forward for amnesty. I could live with that if the border was secured first.


12 posted on 02/01/2014 7:20:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Sirius Lee

So you’re pro-amnesty, too?


17 posted on 02/01/2014 7:26:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Sirius Lee

ENOUGH with these ‘comprehensive’. It’s just an easy way to water down the individual parts to make the whole thing meaningless.

Pass the damn thing piece-meal, on a contingent that the next piece cannot be brought up to vote until the prior is settled upon (IE: can’t skip to ‘amnesty’ until the border bill is passed)


32 posted on 02/01/2014 10:18:37 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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