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Proposed Bill Would Allow Oklahomans To Carry Handguns Without License
newson6 ^ | 1-25-2014 | Tess Maune

Posted on 01/25/2014 5:22:27 PM PST by kjam22

TULSA, Oklahoma - An Oklahoma legislator proposes a bill that would allow gun owners to "carry firearms without getting a license." The way Oklahoma's law works now, anyone who passes a background check can buy a firearm. But to carry a gun, openly or concealed, you must have a handgun license.

To get that license there's a lengthy process, and one state senator said that goes against the constitution.

"I've always been a strong proponent of the 2nd amendment," said Republican state senator Nathan Dahm. Dahm said the nation's right to bear arms is being violated. "I believe that it says exactly what it means, that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," Dahm said. "I think that a lot of the laws that we have are an infringement upon that."

The senator has now written a bill of his own, that he said would bring Oklahoma's gun laws in line with what America's forefathers intended. "It would just be that you could carry a weapon openly without having a concealed carry permit," Dahm said.

There are a number of steps to take before someone can get a handgun license. You must pass a gun-safety course, file papers with the county you live in, pass a background check and pay a fee to get the actual license.

"They should be able to protect themselves without having to jump through all those hoops," said Dahm. If passed, background checks would still be mandatory before buying a gun. And because of that, RJ's Gun Sales owner, Scott Murry said he supports the legislation. "I don't see anything wrong with it, but I do prefer that they have training. And, of course, if they purchase a gun, they'll have to go through a background check, so that should be good enough," Murry said.

It's the training issue that worries retired Army veteran Patrick Lovelace, who said the bill is a bad idea. The proposed legislation means gun safety courses that are required now would only be optional.

"I believe we need to maintain as much security as we can, particularly dealing with civilians," said Lovelace. "As strict as we can get 'em - we're better off."

With the proposed law, Dahm said it would still be illegal for convicted felons to own or carry a firearm, but he said it doesn't matter what laws are in place, guns will still end up in the hands of criminals. "There's always gonna be bad characters and if somebody really wants to do something evil, they'll find a way to do it," Dahm said.

His legislation would also lower the age to carry a handgun from 21 to 18. The bill has gained national attention, in part because Senate Bill 1473 was filed as "The Piers Morgan Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms Without Infringement Act," or "The Piers Morgan Act," for short.

"A lot of times the names that are given to them are the exact opposite, it's somewhat ironic," said Dahm. "Since this is strengthening 2nd amendment rights, why not name it after somebody that is always trying to further restrict those rights," said Dahm.

Piers Morgan is a CNN television host and a vocal gun-control advocate. Dahm said when Morgan learned of the bill, he sent a tweet to Dahm, inviting the senator to be on his show.

"I think debate is healthy. I think conversation is healthy. I think we need to discuss it, we need to have a discussion," Dahm said. Dahm said he's flying out to discuss the topic live on Morgan's show Monday.

There are still a number of hurdles the bill must pass between the senate and house before it lands on the governor's desk.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; carry; conceal
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I'd say this has a chance to pass in Oklahoma...
1 posted on 01/25/2014 5:22:27 PM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22

Right on!


2 posted on 01/25/2014 5:24:28 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: kjam22
Oklahoma is OK!!
3 posted on 01/25/2014 5:26:50 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: kjam22

I like that bill. They should call it “The Second Amendment”.


4 posted on 01/25/2014 5:30:33 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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I like that. You know... this government has money for all kinds of stuff. If I could modify the bill... I would have the government provide free gun safety training for those who want to take it. Completely optional. (There are a few idiots out there that I’d like to see take the training) But yeah.... I like the bill.


5 posted on 01/25/2014 5:32:35 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be Infringed. “


6 posted on 01/25/2014 5:38:38 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: kjam22

Interesting idea.
Our government spent $900 million on trying to identify airport terrorists by their facial tics...


7 posted on 01/25/2014 5:40:32 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: faithhopecharity

Nor should it be taxed.


8 posted on 01/25/2014 5:41:01 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: kjam22

Do they need a license to exercise free speech as well?


9 posted on 01/25/2014 5:48:05 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onyx

As that [four letter word] was largely instrumental with pushing for the loss of our gun rights, the name of this piece of legislation fills me with a warm glow. :)


10 posted on 01/25/2014 5:50:36 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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Exactly!


11 posted on 01/25/2014 5:52:11 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: kjam22

A tax or an Application or a fee or a registry or a license are all infringements Prohibited It’s none of govtS business if you choose to keep or bear arms. We could argue policy nuances all day but the constitution makes our personal ideas of what might be best irrelevant.


12 posted on 01/25/2014 5:58:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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Notice the headline:

Proposed Bill Would Allow Oklahomans To Carry Handguns Without License

I would have written:

Proposed Bill Would Restore, Oklahomans Right to Carry Handguns Without License

13 posted on 01/25/2014 6:09:17 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Time for it to pass. Arizona and a number of other states allow this already. The result has not been carnage in the streets, despite the fact that in Arizona the Federal Government arms the drug gangs. (What, you thought all those Fast and Furious guns went to Mexico? No.)

If it passes a few of the bed wetter class may pack up and move to more reactionary places but I suspect most Oklahomans won't miss them much.

14 posted on 01/25/2014 6:17:19 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Explain again, why don't you need to fill out form 4473 to buy a pressure cooker?)
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To: cloudmountain

Oklahoma is OK!!


Oklahoma is the only state that didn’t have a single county vote predominantly for Obastard.


15 posted on 01/25/2014 6:26:54 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: kjam22

Nathan is dead on.

Kudos.


16 posted on 01/25/2014 6:29:19 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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I hope the Okies agree to this. It’s first effect, if Arizona is a good example, will be to save their state a LOT of money that is currently wasted on licensing people.


17 posted on 01/25/2014 6:36:30 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: kjam22

Constitutionally protected freedoms. WHAT A CONCEPT!


18 posted on 01/25/2014 7:08:49 PM PST by golux
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To: golux

Goodness, am I retarded, too?

Constitutionally AFFIRMED freedoms. WHAT A CONCEPT!


19 posted on 01/25/2014 7:09:46 PM PST by golux
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To: laplata
Oklahoma is the only state that didn’t have a single county vote predominantly for Obastard.

Oklahoma is AAAAA-OK! Hooray for them!

20 posted on 01/25/2014 9:43:51 PM PST by cloudmountain
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