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1 posted on 01/21/2014 11:45:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Many good points, I know people who proclaim that Gold is the solution, or food stores for long term survival, etc. The bottom line is surviving intact is nearly impossible, ammo, firearms and food for the short run. Long term, who knows?


5 posted on 01/22/2014 12:15:20 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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In ref to the indefinite detention thing, I worked in a California prison for 25 years. I grew weary of seeing criminals get lots of good food, the best medical care money can buy and all brand name, expensive medications. If the government continues to give criminals the best, I can see where many people out there, starving to death on the streets, might rather be in prison. At least they will get food to eat. Now the other point. I hope, that when (not if) this all happens, I hope millions of people do that thing that Solzhenitsyn talked about, during the Soviet Communist era, that you like to post.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 12:16:11 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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Question: has any other society as well armed as ours been pushed to SHTF?


9 posted on 01/22/2014 1:27:09 AM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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There's something in the air.
11 posted on 01/22/2014 1:59:44 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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13 posted on 01/22/2014 2:05:00 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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It will not affect me until Social Security crashes, but other then that, I do not know what effect it will have on my life. If one lives in a country where they are depending on big stocks of guns and bullets, not to mention plenty of money, to save themselves and their family, it is all over but the shouting and shooting.
It is one thing to be at war with a foreign invader, but something entirely different to fight and shoot your fellow citizens.
I know that I would not want to be there without an escape plan with numerous options. One should make sure that they and every family member has a passport and travel/survival funds, even though they would be of no help if you wait too late to escape. Just ask survivors of the Holocaust.
That being said, America may survive the Obamination, but it will not likely return to be the America that we grew up in. GOD save America.


14 posted on 01/22/2014 2:19:17 AM PST by AlexW
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When?


15 posted on 01/22/2014 2:24:30 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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None of us will be unscathed by this.

But if we prepare ourselves with precious metals, food, water, medical supplies, back-up electricity generation and the means and will to defend our family and property - this will go a long way.

Assume that society is going to collapse in the next 30 days. Envisage it. Imagine it. Then prepare.

If society makes it to the end of the 30 days, bonus! You have more preparation time.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 3:13:27 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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Confiscation of wealth. The EU has instituted the confiscation of bank accounts, which can be expected to become an international form of governmental theft. This does not automatically mean that other assets, such as precious metals and real estate will also be confiscated, but it does mean that the barrier for confiscation has been eliminated. There is therefore no reason to assume that any asset is safe from any government that approves theft through bail-ins.

They’ve already signaled this:

IMF Paper: Debt-Ridden Western Nations May Resort to ‘Financial Repression’
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/imf-paper-debt-ridden-western-nations-may-resort-financial
(CNSNews.com) – The highest debt-to-GDP levels in 200 years could force advanced Western nations to adopt “financial repression” measures typically reserved for economically unstable debtor nations, including mass write-offs and a tax on savings, warns a working paper published last week by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

43 posted on 01/22/2014 10:07:14 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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