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German Gold Manipulation Blowback Escalates: Deutsche Bank Exits Gold Price Fixing
Zero Hedge ^ | 17 January, 2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/17/2014 8:04:49 AM PST by Errant

Germany's blowback against gold manipulation is accelerating. Following yesterday's report that Bafin took a hard line against precious metals manipulation, after its president Eike Koenig said possible manipulation of precious metals "is worse than the Libor-rigging scandal", today the response has trickled down to Germany and Europe's largest bank, Deutsche Bank, which announced that it would withdraw from the appropriately named gold and silver price "fixing", as European regulators investigate suspected manipulation of precious metals prices by banks. As a reminder, Deutsche is one of five banks involved in the twice-daily gold fix for global price setting and said it was quitting the process after withdrawing from the bulk of its commodities business. The scramble away from gold fixing was certainly assisted by the recent first (of many) manipulation expose in the legacy media, when Bloomberg revealed "How Gold Price Is Manipulated During The "London Fix." And sure enough, with Germany already very sensitive to the topic of its gold repatriation, and specifically why it is taking so long, it was only a matter of time before any German involvement in gold manipulation escalated to the very top.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: banks; comdex; eurobanking; eussr; germany; gold; goldmanipulation; goldprices; silver
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Could be a significant development in the alleged suppression of gold and silver prices.
1 posted on 01/17/2014 8:04:49 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

So, does this mean BUY or SELL?


2 posted on 01/17/2014 8:06:20 AM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

Buy if you’re so inclined. But then I’m NO financial advisor and I haven’t stayed in a Holiday Inn in years. ;)


3 posted on 01/17/2014 8:09:25 AM PST by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: lurk

BUY


4 posted on 01/17/2014 8:12:29 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Errant

The second country in two days to allege price fixing on gold/PMs. China was the first in regards to keeping the dollar higher and as the world reserve. If demand alone determines gold prices, it could go much much higher. The fed would fight this but may have to bow to demands from other governments. I own BRG and SLW. Do your own DD.


5 posted on 01/17/2014 8:23:09 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Errant
I love free advice.

Buy if you’re so inclined.

6 posted on 01/17/2014 8:24:59 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
I love free advice.

Plenty of that on the internet. I just don't wish to give bad advice, free or otherwise. We've all been surprised to what extent they've been able to manipulate ALL of the markets. Personally, I'm moving from holding to a strong interest in adding - but certainly NOT selling at this time.

Then the Chinese for instance, large holders of gold, are reported to be having liquidity problems. If a rumor was started that they are thinking of selling even a small portion of their gold, the price would be greatly affected.

It's being reported that premiums are now increasing. Watch the premiums at APMEX or someone else you trust, as they are more likely to reflect local difficulties in acquiring physical gold or silver.

All things to consider....

7 posted on 01/17/2014 8:42:14 AM PST by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: ckilmer

Ping. Explain how this can’t possibly be true.


8 posted on 01/17/2014 8:42:23 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: lurk

The market doesn’t see it as a big deal. It’s still trading at the low end of the 52 week price range. Up $9.50 today at about $1249 oz.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 8:43:10 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: BipolarBob
The fed would fight this but may have to bow to demands from other governments.

Yes, and watch the dollar index to gauge how hard the Fed (and other central banks) will fight. Recently, the closer the dollar gets to 80 on the index, the harder they fight to keep the price of gold contained - could change in the future of course with these new developments.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 8:48:03 AM PST by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: lurk

My advice is to buy low and and sell high.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 8:51:06 AM PST by PGR88
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12 posted on 01/17/2014 8:51:21 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: BipolarBob

“Do you own DD.” (?)
I made money on DDD:)

I’m off to look at BRG & SLW


13 posted on 01/17/2014 8:51:52 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Errant

Germany is upset the FED has already sold all the gold they have been storing for the Germans. I read somewhere that the Germans asked for it back, and the FED said - OK, within the next 7 years....


14 posted on 01/17/2014 8:52:16 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Free Vulcan

Ping. BS? Reverse psyops?


15 posted on 01/17/2014 8:52:45 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Southack

Ping. Another idiotic article?


16 posted on 01/17/2014 8:53:11 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Errant

Actually, it’s been a pretty good day for gold, silver, and the other precious metals.

There was a bottom of some kind right at the turn of the year. It’s hard to be sure, and there may be another pullback going into this spring, but I think we may be getting a bottom here, after two years of pullback.

The trader statistics are positive, with speculators and small traders going short and the big guys mostly out of their shorts, which they’ve been playing for quite some time.

My guess is that we’ll continue up further for a couple of weeks, pull back some, and then sometime this spring develop a long-term bull market. But that’s just a guess.

DYODD. Do your own due diligence.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 9:03:27 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cold Heart

My mistake BRD instead of BRG. I bought Brigus Gold before a buyout offer from PPP so I’m up pretty good on it. SLW is a silver streamer instead of a miner. I buy the dips and sell the rips. GL


18 posted on 01/17/2014 9:05:24 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Cicero
Just did a quick check of APMEX premiums and siver premiums are way up.

1 oz Silver American Eagle (Random Year)
As low as $3.89 per coin over spot!

Gold is still down:

1 oz Gold American Eagle (Random Year)
As low as $54.99 per coin over spot!

19 posted on 01/17/2014 9:22:16 AM PST by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: lurk
I wouldn't assume the downtrend is broken yet.
20 posted on 01/17/2014 9:31:31 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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