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Fury after mentally ill 18-year-old was killed by police in front of his mortified parents
Daily Mail UK ^ | 1/8/14

Posted on 01/16/2014 7:48:02 PM PST by Arthurio

An 18-year-old mentally ill boy who was killed by police was 'shot to death like dog', a close family friend said today.

Keith Vidal was already restrained by two police officers when a third officer shot him in the chest on Sunday after allegedly saying 'I don't have time for this'.

The officer was preparing to fire a second shot when he was grabbed by the victim's step father.

Vidal, who was having a schizophrenic episode, did not pose a threat to any of the officers - who had been called to help by his family, friends said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535424/Fury-schizophrenic-teen-Keith-Vidal-shot-dead-Southport-Police.html#ixzz2qckt79Rw Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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To: Gay State Conservative

My mother has been director of psych hospital for 2 decades and still is. She says the same thing and deals with all the folks the police and other hospitals dump on them daily. That’s all she does.

But she hasn’t had to kill any patient.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 8:37:42 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

Maybe she has more time?


22 posted on 01/16/2014 8:40:31 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: GingisK
How many did you see killed because they "didn't have time for this shit"?

Well,you see...a hospital ER has a couple of advantages over a cop when facing such a situation.

1)They have a least several big,burly (male) nurses and nurses aides.

2) They have leather restraints that can be placed on the wrists,the ankles and the torso.

3) They have drugs so powerful and so fast acting that they can bring a charging rhino (the four legged kind,not Juan McLame) to its knees before you can say "nighty-night".

23 posted on 01/16/2014 8:47:03 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
In 20+ years working in a major hospital's ER I encountered many,many,many,*many* schizophrenics,male and female.And I can guarantee you that the males were,at times,capable of some very,very disturbing,violent acts.I won't elaborate...too many stories to tell.

??????

episodes end eventually

death, however, is permanent

subdue and call for backup. the cop exercised very bad judgement and should wear the title murderer as he now is IMO.
24 posted on 01/16/2014 8:48:41 PM PST by digdem
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To: null and void

ha.

She’s retiring in 6 months. I’m telling her to keep calm, she’s almost made it.


25 posted on 01/16/2014 8:51:52 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing
There are effective means to handle combative patients. ER personnel are supposed to be trained to handle them. If they are not they don't belong in an ER. But this didn't happen in an ER, it appears to have been in the family home.
26 posted on 01/16/2014 8:54:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cincinnati65

Will you be impressed if the government once again clears itself?


27 posted on 01/16/2014 9:08:36 PM PST by JLS
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To: Arthurio

this ain’t Officer Friendly or Deputy Fife anymore. These are the jackbooted thugs that shoot at will these days.

been living in LA for 20 years. don’t trust any of them.


28 posted on 01/16/2014 9:08:51 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Arthurio

Given the facts that have been reported, it makes absolutely no sense why the LEO would shoot into a pile of people on the floor. None. Why would he use lethal force in a situation like this. Something doesn’t add up.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 9:11:29 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: JLS
Bottom line is, you weren't there and I wasn't there, and the stepfather's story has changed over time. All I'm suggesting is to do your own research and not jump to conclusion based on some media reports.

Their "story" is that a cop walked in and executed a subdued 18 year old kid. Honestly, how likely is that? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely. If it is true, then I think the cop in question should have the book thrown at him to the fullest extent. All I'm suggesting is to think about it.

30 posted on 01/16/2014 9:14:55 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Arthurio

I’m ambivalent about the Kelly Thomas verdict. Twelve jurors saw something I didn’t and cut them loose. Likewise, this case will have more to offer than what the media chooses to report. And while I typically, without hesitation, side with law enforcement, a jackboot licker I ain’t. But I surely don’t call them pigs either. I save that for hippies.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 9:29:23 PM PST by driveserve (You likes to drink? Of course you do! Who da hell don't?)
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To: cincinnati65

I bet you’d also say it highly unlikely that cops would beat a man to death as he was crying out for his father to save him, and then laugh about the man crapping his pants from the fatal beating.


32 posted on 01/16/2014 9:30:30 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

33 posted on 01/16/2014 9:34:11 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Arthurio

Nah. They are all under such stress and have high standards... notwithstanding of course that standards for civilians is to get a felony assault for merely saying stop or that the military hasndouble jeopardy....

We are not talking about this kind of stress and standards. (Sarc off)

Fact of the matter, a cop is someone who has an entire army of buddies and lawyers to protect them and make them say the right thing. We ask for a lawyer or a witness or a recording and see what happens.


34 posted on 01/16/2014 9:34:26 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: null and void

35 posted on 01/16/2014 9:35:08 PM PST by GraceG
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To: mgstarr

36 posted on 01/16/2014 9:36:16 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Arthurio
The North Carolina Police Benevolent Association said it "welcomes" these investigations, but at the same time that it "assigned local counsel" to look into the matter. Its director, Midgette, explained this investigation consisted of talking to two officers involved who are members of -- and thus represented by -- his association.

The group said that three officers from three agencies responded to Vidal's house "due to the dangerous nature of the call."

Vidal "failed to comply with repeated requests to surrender the deadly weapon," which the 911 caller said was a screwdriver, the Police Benevolent Association reported.

What the officers did next -- such as using a Taser -- were "authorized and necessary law enforcement procedures ... to promote safety for everyone involved, including Vidal," the group added.

The detective fired after Vidal "made physical contact with the (Boiling Spring Lakes officer) using the hand holding the deadly weapon," the police association said in its statement.

"The officers present realized the immediate and deadly threat to (the officer's) life," said the group.

37 posted on 01/16/2014 9:37:32 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: cincinnati65

After comparing the cops story and the video they did not know about when they shot the man in Dallas:

http://benswann.com/caught-on-tape-dallas-cop-shoots-mentally-ill-man/

I think I might be more open minded than you in such cases.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 9:39:54 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS
Okay, fine then. Jump to conclusions, do no research, and be convinced that all cops are jackbooted thugs on a power trip. Sheez. All I suggested was that you be open-minded and listen to both sides of the story.

But, since we're expounding, here's my "theory". Boy is threatening mother with a screwdriver and having a "bad episode". Stepdad calls the cops as he has 20 times before to deal with the boy. Cops attempt to subdue boy, but boy flails around and refuses to relinquish the screwdriver, striking one of the officers. Cop fires, killing the boy. Stepdad initially says that cop says "we don't have time for this.....taze him." (there's video of this). Stepdad starts getting crap from mom about involving the cops. Stepdad deflects and later changes story to "cop says we don't have time for this and shoots boy". All to assuage his guilt at having involved the cops which ultimately resulted in the boy's death.

My "story" is just as plausible as yours. Neither of us knows, and all I asked that we remain open minded and not run off half-cocked and jumping to conclusions about police brutality.

39 posted on 01/16/2014 9:54:15 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Arthurio

He was having his night disturbed and saw the kid reaching for his cellphone — sufficient reason for a police shooting these days.


40 posted on 01/16/2014 10:01:36 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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